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WCDT Strips 3546 to 3550 (14th to 18th August 2017)
Shjade:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 02:15 ---If you can't have a reasonable discussion with someone, it's because of the person, not the concept of privilege.
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Any concept can and will be misused and abused. That doesn't invalidate the concept.
Edit: And there are definitely problems to address with the culture as a whole and its ramifications. But that's a much longer conversation, and probably beyond the scope of this thread.
flondrix:
--- Quote from: brasca on 18 Aug 2017, 09:03 ---I'm weary of all these arguments over privilege. The important question is what will Winslow see after sniffing his first cup of tea.
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It would appear that we have been cheated out of that scene.
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 12:41 ---
--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 02:15 ---If you can't have a reasonable discussion with someone, it's because of the person, not the concept of privilege.
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Any concept can and will be misused and abused. That doesn't invalidate the concept.
Edit: And there are definitely problems to address with the culture as a whole and its ramifications. But that's a much longer conversation, and probably beyond the scope of this thread.
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Again. I have said many times in this thread that privilege exists, that it is a thing. Stop trying to treat "I hate when people are asses about privilege and try to use it to shut down discussion" with "privilege doesn't exist".
You are making up arguments that no one in the thread made in order to lecture people like they are children.
Magniras:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 12:09 ---
--- Quote from: Magniras on 18 Aug 2017, 11:46 ---Why would anyone ever feel the need to "call out" the privilege of who is trying to use their advantages to back a cause they believe in?
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Long answer: It's possible to think you're helping when, in reality, you're not. For a mundane example, suggesting people being harassed online should "ignore the trolls," when that's a) not really helpful or constructive and b) indicative that you're either a person with a different kind of resilience/response to that behavior than the person you're talking to, or in a position where you've never had to worry about/deal with that much negative attention yet feel you have advice to offer about it. Either way, you're not really being the supportive, understanding "ally" you think you are by essentially disregarding a person's problems in telling them they just shouldn't look at them and ta-da the problem will go away on its own. It's the kind of thing a person might do to feel like they're helping, which isn't the same thing as actually helping. And it generally comes from a place of privilege, or ignorance, or both.
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Actually helping is one of the hardest things people can learn to do. It's exhausting, it can be discouraging, and it can be physically and emotionally draining. Add in someone demanding proof that you're a "real" ally, and the drain and discouragement can make people wonder if anything is worth such a thankless task.
I dont think any thanks or congratulations are owed to someone doing what they consider to be the right thing. But I also know how much even a small gesture can mean to people. And I know how much damage can be done by berating someone for not knowing about something they have no experience with.
SmilingCat:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 18 Aug 2017, 10:57 ---I still feel bad for Winslow. Would he want to do this if May and Bubbles hadn't basically browbeat him about this? I've just got the feeling that this is a "author's tract" and it really feels jarringly out-of-place in the general atmosphere of QC.
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I doubt Bubbles' conversation with Winslow could be considered browbeating by any stretch of the imagination. Not really May's for that matter. She was lashing out. I seriously doubt she did so with any intention of making him do anything. I am a connoisseur of such outburst since the days before I discovered antidepressants. The outburst is very familiar to me from my time in a newspaper mailroom when those FRIGGING ASSHOLES IN THE PRESSROOM NEED TO ADJUST THEIR FRIGGIN MACHINES SO OUR JACKETS WOULD FRIGGIN FEED RIGHT....
...sorry. Reflex.
Anyway... neither conversation seems particularly out of character. At least half of May's appearances have featured her being unhappy and abrasive over her lot in life. It's entirely in character to react the same way to Winslow (I maintain not justified. One of the side affects of being on antidepressants now is that I'm able to acknowledge that the unhinged fire breathing lunatic me was an asshole).
Likewise, Bubbles is a very reserved individual. And once she started opening up to people, her usual bouts of hostility pretty much faded away. She's entirely the type to rationally discuss with Winslow what's bothering him and what he could do about it.
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