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WCDT Strips 3546 to 3550 (14th to 18th August 2017)
Cornelius:
You know, thinking about it, May may really resent the"like you" comment. After all, she didn't want to be humanoid in the first place. It's certainly a step up from disembodied existence, but ostensably not what she wants. That might be more of an issue than Winslow getting what he needs. Of course, Hannelore being one of the few people who might arrange the chassis she actually wants, legally, might be aggravating. It's just possible that she sees the humanoid chassis as little more than a toy - which means she's having to live as a broken toy.
And due to the way she tried to get what she wanted, she'll never get it, probably.
Alright, my point, to be clear, is that, although we see May as a humanoid, that might not be what she essentially is. There isn't much back story, and this might be the first time she's actually embodied.
Since she clearly cannot go back to what she was before, I'd like to propose that this parole, where we see her now, is an attempt at generation, with the virtual companion program as a first step. It would also explain why she is obliged to attend the support group.
Which means that she's still having to learn how to deal with people. So someone should tell her.
@ChipNoir; Thank you for sharing that I can see more clearly where you're coming from. That doesn't mean I agree, however.
As for comparing arcs, I feel we may have better reason to compare this to the one where Claire gets her ears pierced.
Edit: for spelling: apparently chassis had gotten corrected to chaos.
mvdwege:
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 18 Aug 2017, 13:42 ---it is, at best, unhelpful, telling people that because they are xyz, they cannot begin to understand.
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You see, I think there is a lot of truth in that. Being white and middle class from birth, I am not going to pretend that I understand what it is like to be of obviously North-African descent in my society. I don't have to deal with those levels of prejudice; intellectually I know it exists, but it is not part of my experience, so no, I cannot begin to understand.
Just like I dropped out of my comfortable middle-class life and had to survive in dead-end jobs for years, including applying for unemployment, means that I understand life on the underside a lot better than my comfortably-off colleagues who came straight from college into a well-paying job, and spout off on how benefit claimants are all lazy good-for-nothings, and act surprised if I get mad about that.
People often let their privilege blind themselves to the actual life experience of others. "You cannot begin to understand" is not a dismissal, it's criticism. If you want to take it as a dismissal, I'm thinking you're rather proving the point.
Gyrre:
Here's the thing everyone seems to be ignoring; none of us are Winslow, none of us can really say for certain what Winslow needs beyond shelter, a reliable power source, and some sense of security.
We can only infer some of Winslows' needs from Maslow's hierachy of needs. 'Winslow' [Jeph] will have to elaborate on any other needs he has.
KnightRider007:
--- Quote from: mvdwege on 19 Aug 2017, 01:52 ---
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 18 Aug 2017, 13:42 ---it is, at best, unhelpful, telling people that because they are xyz, they cannot begin to understand.
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You see, I think there is a lot of truth in that. Being white and middle class from birth, I am not going to pretend that I understand what it is like to be of obviously North-African descent in my society. I don't have to deal with those levels of prejudice; intellectually I know it exists, but it is not part of my experience, so no, I cannot begin to understand.
Just like I dropped out of my comfortable middle-class life and had to survive in dead-end jobs for years, including applying for unemployment, means that I understand life on the underside a lot better than my comfortably-off colleagues who came straight from college into a well-paying job, and spout off on how benefit claimants are all lazy good-for-nothings, and act surprised if I get mad about that.
People often let their privilege blind themselves to the actual life experience of others. "You cannot begin to understand" is not a dismissal, it's criticism. If you want to take it as a dismissal, I'm thinking you're rather proving the point.
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Oddly enough, they people most likely to say that are also the people who will say "I know what you're thinking!" People who claim that nobody understands them certainly claim to understand others...
Meilu:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 18 Aug 2017, 21:22 ---Oh please, Winslow made a major change in his life to be more like his friends, he was feeling left behind, and wanted to do more like all his peers, and he was excited to show people he had joined their world.
He was impatient about it, so he headed to where they were to do it. Which happened to be at work.
HOW DARE HE DO SOMETHING SO SINISTER. FOR SHAME.
Seriously.
Here is the thing, I've been in May's shoes. I've seen people just decide and get things they want because they come from money, and then show it off to me. Even when I was so dirt poor that I ate ramen for weeks to save the real food for my kids. And yes, I was a bit jealous. But I never once snapped at them. I never once felt it was their responsibility to take care of my feelings. Because I can actually take care of my feelings. And even if I was jealous, I was happy they got something they were excited about, because I'm an empathetic human being who cares about people other than myself. Fucking hell, isn't it wonderful whenever there is joy in the world?
And now that I'm better off? Perhaps I should stop telling my board game group about all the new games I get all the time. Cause most of them are very poor and can rarely buy anything for themselves. But I don't have to cause they are adults who don't treat me having a lower middle-class income as an attack on them.
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Who is calling it sinister? As far as I can tell nobody has done that. Your experience of tolerating insensitive behavior from people who were supposed to be your friends doesn't make your method objectively better. Given Winslow's reaction of thinking about how he can now use his privilege to help others, I'd say May getting angry was fine. Sometimes it takes a friend pointing out your behavior is insensitive. Sometimes it adds to their personal growth. I've made a lot of people think about things and alter their behavior by getting upset with them when they're insensitive. Letting people be insensitive and being happy for them are entirely different things. Flaunting privilege is inherently insensitive. Not every socially insensitive instance of privilege is going to be the insidious rich capitalist banker showing up at a poor person's house waving money in people's faces while laughing evilly and talking about evicting them. Nobody's saying it wasn't okay for him to be excited. They're saying how he handled it in regards to May was insensitive, which it was. Was her reaction the best? No, but why should she censor her feelings to spare his...? Are his more important because he's not a poor ex-convict?
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