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WCDT Strips 3546 to 3550 (14th to 18th August 2017)

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Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: Meilu on 19 Aug 2017, 07:38 ---Are his more important because he's not a poor ex-convict?
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According to at least a few people here, yes. I am not one of those. I think Winslow doesn't know May as well as he thought he did, and that's why he said what he did. They're people, and they're flawed, and I think they can both move on from this and become better friends.

Emperor Norton:
No, no one is calling it Sinister, but people are saying that wanting your friends to share in your happiness is a BURDEN. That somehow being happy that something good happened to your friend, which let him move from being basically a glorified iPod who can't even right himself to having the same functionality as an able bodied human being. That gave him freedom and the ability to do in life what he wants to do, rather than being stuck if he falls on his back.

And had she just called out that he was being a little insensitive, yeah, ok, but she doesn't, even as he is trying to apologize, she cuts him off and belittles him more. Then she goes to her friend and continues to talk shit about him.

Her feelings aren't worth less, but the way she shows her feelings are ACTIVELY MALICIOUS, while the way he shows his are not.

I don't know. I see a lot of people who are extremely bitter about their circumstances lashing out. Honestly, it feels like that is how we got Trump (a bunch of poor rural white folks feeling bitter about it feeling like no one cares about them, so they lashed out), so no, I don't support people bitterly lashing out at people who in no way are responsible for their situation.

Meilu:

--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 19 Aug 2017, 10:05 ---No, no one is calling it Sinister, but people are saying that wanting your friends to share in your happiness is a BURDEN. That somehow being happy that something good happened to your friend, which let him move from being basically a glorified iPod who can't even right himself to having the same functionality as an able bodied human being. That gave him freedom and the ability to do in life what he wants to do, rather than being stuck if he falls on his back.
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What exactly is there for them to share in? Explain to me. Momo and May were both working. As has been said repeatedly, Winslow has never complained about his lot in life up until he literally just decided to get a new body. Not everyone has that luxury. Some people have to work hard for it. It's more like Caitlyn Jenner showing up at my work and being like "transition was such a breeze for me". Yeah, great for you, fuck you for showing up here and saying that. I couldn't get mad about that (assuming I were friends with her, which I wouldn't be anyway because politics matter)?


--- Quote ---And had she just called out that he was being a little insensitive, yeah, ok, but she doesn't, even as he is trying to apologize, she cuts him off and belittles him more. Then she goes to her friend and continues to talk shit about him.
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"I don't want an apology. I want him to to fuckin' think about it and not be a dick in the future."
Totally not talking shit about him. She's bitching about the situation and wanting him to think about it. Yes, there's a difference. And it's actually what he's doing, so... yeah.


--- Quote ---Her feelings aren't worth less, but the way she shows her feelings are ACTIVELY MALICIOUS, while the way he shows his are not.
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You're reading maliciousness from being hurt by insensitivity. She didn't yell at him. She said it must be nice. She even said she was happy for him but didn't need him showing off in her face. Go enjoy yourself somewhere else, or something along those lines.


--- Quote ---I don't know. I see a lot of people who are extremely bitter about their circumstances lashing out. Honestly, it feels like that is how we got Trump (a bunch of poor rural white folks feeling bitter about it feeling like no one cares about them, so they lashed out), so no, I don't support people bitterly lashing out at people who in no way are responsible for their situation.

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I'm a poor rural white person. It's not like rural white folks being bitter is unwarranted. Their anger was misdirected by propaganda like Fox News and Breitbart, pitting poor white people against minorities... the divide and conquer tactic. There's a whole bunch of things at play, pointing to bitter poor rural white folks and blaming them for Trump is ignoring a lot of bigger problems that led to them being bitter and poor to begin with. And I'm not even saying poor rural white people deserve sympathy over any other group that's struggling (they absolutely don't), but in a country with as many resources as the US has, it's patently absurd that anyone is poor and struggling. The only reason for it is greed. Just because bitter poor rural white people aren't all smart enough to see it doesn't mean they deserve the situation they're in, and if people are getting what they need to comfortably survive (not struggle to) then they won't listen to bullshit that tells them to blame minorities and immigrants for their terrible lot in life. They were looking for a reason and they listened to people who told them what it was. They were lied to, but how do they know any better? Yeah, some of them (like the Nazis) are fucking awful people. They just wouldn't have been susceptible to extremism if they were getting what they needed. But okay, just blame bitter people for Trump. Trump's a tiny symptom of a massive problem in the US. Would Hillary have fixed it? Mayyyybe, but probably not... she's just another corporate democrat.

Case:

--- Quote from: mvdwege on 19 Aug 2017, 01:52 ---People often let their privilege blind themselves to the actual life experience of others. "You cannot begin to understand" is not a dismissal, it's criticism. If you want to take it as a dismissal, I'm thinking you're rather proving the point.

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Apologies for nitpicking:
That appears ... an odd criticism to me. Odd, because the challenge to 'check one's privilege' implies that the other should make an effort to understand, while 'you can't begin to understand' simultaneously asserts that precisely that which is demanded of them is beyond their capabilities (*).

Like ... what are they supposed to do with my telling them that I want them to do something I consider them utterly incapable of doing? People who have experienced emotional abuse might even suspect I'm trying to put them in something similar to a double bind, and loose all trust in me.


:?


(*) My apologies if that wasn't what you meant - you haven't explicitly put a challenge for somebody to 'check their privilege' next to 'you can't begin to understand', I felt the former was sort of 'in the air' here in this thread.

Is it cold in here?:
@meilu, are you OK with me moving your post to DISCUSS?

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