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ai ages
miados:
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 18 Aug 2017, 13:59 ---As an aside, I'm not really comfortable with the idea of my appliances having a consciousness... My toaster spends altogether too much time in the back of the cupboard.
Another question is to what degree hardware determines the possible level of maturity. To what degree would that limit, say, a toaster? Which also begs the question: what are the criteria for a system to be recognised as an independent, conscious AI? That is something the levels of Turing test passed might indicate.
Another interesting question, but perhaps for a different thread, would be if the degree of maturity/human equivalent age, plays a role in the civic duties/rights they can exercise. Somewhat like how legislation protects minors (and equivalent) in our world.
For now, we seem to be focusing on very human-like AI's - quite naturally, as they are most present in the comic - however, would the consciousness of Trashbot, or a toasterbot work in a similar way? Someone in the comic already mentioned that the very large AI's just treat human consciousness as just another subroutine. I can imagine it can be very difficult to consider the maturity / human equivalent age of what is essentially an alien mind.
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I forget the name he had but that one robot arm ai that took over for corpse witch seemed pretty mature to me despite the fact he didn't have a full body to work with by our own standards at least. Sort of like how we have most alience in the likes of star trek and wars look mostly humanoid (not all but most) as opposed to a book series i read when younger where the aliens were very unhumanoid. (animorphs)
i keep thinking about how then one young justice cartoon they are talking about superboy with his body being less than five years but his mind closer to 20 how they should determine criteria. along with shazam who had the wisdom of soloman and when not in that form just a normal kid.
Somehow i feel that each ai has a different rate of maturity. like even if the same age for some reason i see winslow as maybe 9 or 10. momo as closer to 18 and pintsize as a mix between a young teen you hear on call of duty or a college frat boy stereotype maturity wise.
Cornelius:
Merlin is also a good example of a wise and mature infant; there is a legend, how he was literally the Devil's own son, but was baptized just in time. Now, having a son with the Devil, did not go over well with the authorities. And So, his mother was put on trial. Now, even back then, they're were procedures to be observed, and she was allowed an attorney. Cue Merlin, at the ripe and mature age of seven days, pleading before a court, in the language of the learned, and actually managing her acquittal.
End of the off topic but. My apologies, I can't help myself whenever that story is in the slightest relevant.
I really suppose that in universe, there is some kind of standardised testing.
Jeremy was the one I was referring to earlier. Of course, an assembly arm is a versatile piece of equipment, and would need more intelligence and maturity than, say, a toaster. However, an issue toaster might really screw up your mornings.
Personally, I think of Winslow as 13-ish. Can't rationalise it, but it seems to fit, for now.
miados:
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 18 Aug 2017, 15:21 ---Merlin is also a good example of a wise and mature infant; there is a legend, how he was literally the Devil's own son, but was baptized just in time. Now, having a son with the Devil, did not go over well with the authorities. And So, his mother was put on trial. Now, even back then, they're were procedures to be observed, and she was allowed an attorney. Cue Merlin, at the ripe and mature age of seven days, pleading before a court, in the language of the learned, and actually managing her acquittal.
End of the off topic but. My apologies, I can't help myself whenever that story is in the slightest relevant.
I really suppose that in universe, there is some kind of standardised testing.
Jeremy was the one I was referring to earlier. Of course, an assembly arm is a versatile piece of equipment, and would need more intelligence and maturity than, say, a toaster. However, an issue toaster might really screw up your mornings.
Personally, I think of Winslow as 13-ish. Can't rationalise it, but it seems to fit, for now.
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well without a way to quantify maturity since even among people of the same age there is a lot of fluctionation. i just picture somewhere in the highest preteen ages for winslow. not sure why but i just feel it fits. sometimes thats all you can say. it just feels right.
Gyrre:
It would seem that nobody has addressed 'clothed cognition' yet. It'd be interesting to learn just how much the appearance of an AI's chassis might affect their self presentation.
Here's a vid:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQAKOdZw7F8
Imagine Pintsize getting a chassis that looks like Uryū Ishida from Bleach in his school uniform.. Just how much more serious might he act? Or would he simply seem to be acting even more outlandishly when going about his usual antics?
miados:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 22 Aug 2017, 17:32 ---It would seem that nobody has addressed 'clothed cognition' yet. It'd be interesting to learn just how much the appearance of an AI's chassis might affect their self presentation.
Here's a vid:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQAKOdZw7F8
Imagine Pintsize getting a chassis that looks like Uryū Ishida from Bleach in his school uniform.. Just how much more serious might he act? Or would he simply seem to be acting even more outlandishly when going about his usual antics?
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not the type of games they meant but in dungeons and dragons i was a teifling wizard with armour typically equal to or just one below our tanks whose roll was the tank, but i had ways to boost stats and stuff and often was the tank despite wearing basic leather and only holding a staff. it was fun using this little stereotypical wizard figure as an off tank doing flame blasts and stuff as she would fight and it worked surprisingly well. although i got us kicked out of a town once when i forgot about my familiar. i was riding it because i had a ritual that made it horse size and was riding it into town. problem was teifling riding a horse sized dismembered hand wasn't an appealing sight to the town.
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