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bhtooefr:

--- Quote from: Vaygr on 27 Jan 2018, 08:55 ---Trans, gay, etc make up a reaaaaaaaaaally tiny number of humanity, and to have them all orbit together like this without searching for just that kind of people is seems weird.
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--- Quote from: Zebediah on 27 Jan 2018, 09:32 ---Have you ever been to Northampton? I live there. We are the lesbian capital of North America. And we have no shortage of other kinds of LGBT folks either. I don’t find the representation in QC to be strange at all.

Edit: this was directed at Vaygr, in case that wasn’t clear.

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One way to look at this is... people tend to like to live in areas that are friendly to people like them. So, you end up getting enclaves like Northampton (or, in central Ohio (where I live), you get the Short North and German Village as Columbus's LGBT enclaves). So, people probably were sorta searching for fellow LGBT people, but this reflects the reality of the area (where Jeph lived when he started the comic, so he has personal experience of the representation of the area), not Jeph searching for LGBT representation.

Vaygr:
I wasn't trying to start some kind of arguement about this.

But yes, people tend to search for eachother, but it's just not what the characters seemed to be doing in this. I don't know much about Jeph or where he has lived and such. To me, it seems like he is actually trying to force in LGBT representation, which isn't a bad thing at all. I don't mind anyone or anything, but for some reason my mind just don't find non-hetero relationships interesting.

I wasn't trying to offend anyone with what I said, but maybe I worded it badly.

Jeemy:
Put it another way, not to cause an argument, purely as a point of discussion:

'Has there ever been a "standard" relationship in QC apart from Faye and Angus?'

This would ignore Marten and Dora which fizzled, and Sven of course. More accurately, a relationship that was "standard" or "cis" that was a main story-strand?

Its kinda the point of the comic, no? That people with varying ideas/guidelines/backgrounds hook up and bounce off each other?

To vaygr: I don't give a hoot if the relationships in the comic are gay, straight, or non-existant. I don't read for those. I read for the story, and to kill some time; vicarious love stories ain't much for me.

To Case: you say 6.5% of non-heterosexual people is 1/15, and thats true. And thats a LOT of people you know!

Other studies show:

<3.3% NZ
<6% Norway
<4% Spain

In the UK:

2015 / 88.7% exclusively heterosexual! (leaving 12.3% ;)
2017 / 7% homosexual PLUS 5% bisexual
2017 / 81% exclusively heterosexual (leaving 19% no joke 1/5)

Actual figure is maybe even higher than you say.

I know at least 100 people and not a single gay person. Well, I know two gay guys, through two different social circles, who I only knew through friends 20 years ago!

So yeah I would say the proportions in the comic are too high. In RL, too low, compared to these surveys.

Jeemy:

--- Quote from: A small perverse otter on 26 Jan 2018, 12:17 ---
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 26 Jan 2018, 11:44 ---
--- Quote from: Jeemy on 26 Jan 2018, 11:09 ---I'd just simply suggest; keep internet world-wide discussion separate from real-world experience. Use your judgement to handle the transition(?)
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The forum is part of the Internet; you have real-life experience (and so does every other member of the forum, but it's different from yours).  I would respectfully suggest that the forum cannot separate itself from the individual experiences of every one of its members - it's the job of the individual to use their judgement and show respect when interacting with the forum.

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This.

Indeed, the US is in no way homogeneous even on very small scales. My home county in the state of Washington is also bigger than Delaware -- and it is quite culturally diverse from west to east: west is urban and suburban Seattle; east is very rural. West is quite liberal; east quite conservative.

Even locally, we're pretty diverse: there are >20 language spoken by students in the nearby high school, all of whom live within ~2 mi of here.

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Don't really get your points. I am trying to say to you that I *do try* to understand this stuff, but I categorically don't know anybody outwith my whatever-it-is. I live in a real-life cul-de-sac. Maybe I am in the minority! But I read QC because its an eye-opener to a very different culture and way of life. Which I guess you guys just take for granted....

The statistics themselves are very interesting. In another thread somebody mentioned 6.5% non-heterosexual relationships, I looked up some studies and it was more like 19%.

I *still* won't meet these people in real life. Not in Scotland, not in my little village, not through my family groupings, not to the order of 1.5, 6.5, or 19.5 per cent. Just won't happen. Not cause I don't want it to, more cause my life is centred around my kids. I am vaguely aware (and bemused) that my 5-year-old has a trans friend but its not my business to ask or enquire, and I don't know which friend it is - it makes no difference to me as long as the little people are happy and fed.

Again, if I am not showing respect, please educate me as to how. I am trying to discuss and understand these issues, based on what I assume is fairly light debate around an entertainment topic, but I don't think either my comment or pwhodges comment above re separation, on a re-read, make much sense; I guess I was saying its different in RL percentage-wise to what it is when we all come together on a forum from all parts of the globe, but I am not sure if pwh was saying I am not showing respect, or showing disrespect?

OldGoat:
Who was the inked up waitress/bartender who shook Clinton down?  She should fall hopelessly and madly in love with Jimbo.

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