Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 3611 to 3615 (13th to 17th November 2017)
Gyrre:
Geez...
This has been one of those weeks where I skip over about 80% to 90% of the comments since the bulk of them are just folks taking turns beating a dead horse while complaining and missing semi-subtle things.
Only a handful of people have recognized that Tilly was quite sincere when stating her dismay at being unable to assist in hiding her own body were she to be killed. Hanner's question pretty much indicates that there wasn't the slightest hint of sarcasm or jest in Tilly's reaction. That's one broken mind right their.
oddtail:
--- Quote from: Case on 18 Nov 2017, 04:06 ---My apologies if I'm trying to explain to you stuff that you already know by heart:
There's people who display that kind of behaviour deliberately, and it is part of the abuse they wreak on others. Yes, they may have been abused themselves in the past, but note that some habitual abusers are very well-versed in turning this into a tool to get their victim to postpone insisting on their boundaries being respected
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I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong. My general point is that Tilly's behaviour is beyond the scope of what a healthy person might do.
I'm not using this as a justification or defense of her action. I'm using this as a (for now, very speculative) way of maybe understanding the motivation here. Understanding the motivation does not mean acceptance.
Plus, I'm trying to illustrate why Tilly is creepy rather than funny to me. Nothing more and nothing less.
And yes, I realise that behaviour similar to Tilly's may very well be deliberate and is part of a toolset used by abusers. Not every abuse is angry and outwardly hostile, I understand that. "This can be seen as abusive" and "this is not what a healthy person does" are not, in my opinion, mutually exclusive. In fact, healthy and well-adjusted people don't tend to abuse others (because why would they?).
Again, that doesn't make abuse somehow not-wrong. I never said that, nor do I think that.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: KnightRider007 on 17 Nov 2017, 18:09 ---If Tilly had been male, they would have been arrested three strips ago...
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Or, male or female, if they'd been in an environment less built around boundary violations than the Questionable Content universe.
Hannelore would have to assert herself to get Tilly arrested, and probably have to take multiple steps like getting a trespass warning letter and/or a restraining order and waiting for Tilly to violate it.
Which leads to a remarkably mean idea.
--- Quote from: imaginary Hannelore ---Tilly, I'm going to get arrested on purpose in a demonstration at the military base. I won't do well in jail without someone there to help. I need you to be my personal assistant on the inside.
Get yourself arrested today, and wait in jail until I arrive.
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TheEvilDog:
To be honest, that sounds more like something I would do...
blt:
I wasn't on the forums when he was introduced, but on the topic of audience reception for male vs female, what was the contrast to when Clinton was first seen? The situations are not dissimilar: sudden appearance, quirky personality, being creepy/stalkerish and upsetting Hannelore.
The main difference I see is author opinion on the character. Where Jeph's notes keyed on Clinton being a creep (and in general are negative towards him even after his character development since then) they're more positive for Tilly, about how she's cute and helpful or whatever (ech).
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