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WCDT 3621 to 3625 (27th November to 1st December 2017)
Y:
--- Quote from: oddtail on 01 Dec 2017, 05:50 ---Or, to put it another way, a straight person might say they're offended by someone describing them as "heterosexual", but it doesn't change the fact that they, y'know, ARE heterosexual.
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I would suppose, that a straight person could be offended to be called "a heterosexual" as if that's all they are, however if they're called "a heterosexual person" that wouldn't be the case. (feel free to change "heterosexual" with anything)
lawoot:
My point is that the term"cisgender" didn't exist until recently, and the people that started using it were NOT the "cisgendered" themselves. I Identify as male (an asexual male, but a male nonetheless).
Welu:
A quick Google says that cis in terms of gender was originally used in German in 1914 by a cis man and then in English in the 90s. My quick look at the prominent names on the Wikipedia turn up one person openly identifying as trans of the five mentioned. Cis, the term itself has been used in other contexts and is originally Latin for "on this side of". Trans as well. These words existed and had usage before being applied to gender. Similar to hetero and homo before sexuality. Not that they need to be invented by the Official Word Board to be valid.
That said, I wonder how recently, relative to the use of cis, and if it was trans people who first started calling themselves trans or an outside group. Hmm.
Is it cold in here?:
@Bleeds_Daylight, Welcome new person!
Global Moderator Comment The issue of what to call people whose hypothalamus matches their bits has come up before. We're going to continue with "cis" and "cisgender" because our research says they are practical and neutral. Most of the time it will never come up because there are only a few places on the forum where gender identity is relevant to anything.
(I find "cisgender" too useful to be "silly". )
oddtail:
--- Quote from: Y on 01 Dec 2017, 06:06 ---
--- Quote from: oddtail on 01 Dec 2017, 05:50 ---Or, to put it another way, a straight person might say they're offended by someone describing them as "heterosexual", but it doesn't change the fact that they, y'know, ARE heterosexual.
--- End quote ---
I would suppose, that a straight person could be offended to be called "a heterosexual" as if that's all they are, however if they're called "a heterosexual person" that wouldn't be the case. (feel free to change "heterosexual" with anything)
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Good point. It's like calling a gay person "a gay". It just sounds a bit off.
(speaking of which, because it's related: in English "gay" is by default an adjective. The Polish equivalent is a noun and only a noun. And there's not really a short, simple word to use as an adjective without sounding semi-offensive or kinda weird.
I've long wondered how that impacts the perception of a person "being a certain way" vs a person "being something", and whether the difference actually impacts how people in Poland view gay people, at least in a minor way.)
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