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WCDT Strips 3626 to 3630 (4th to 8th December 2017)
ToodleLew:
--- Quote from: Perfectly Reasonable on 05 Dec 2017, 19:06 ---I find trying to discuss a singular character with plural pronouns to be incredibly awkward. Instead of 'she does' is it supposed to be 'they does'? Or is it 'they do'? (As if Tilly has suddenly grown a second head.)
I am tempted to deny Tilly pronouns altogether. Just 'Tilly' whenever a pronoun might appear in normal English.
"Tilly has no idea what Tilly is supposed to do in the situation that Tilly has found Tilly in."
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I hear dissonance when trying to use plural or collective pronouns for singular entities. Rather than deny Tilly pronouns, mentally, I substitute the indefinite pronoun "one" for Tilly's preferred they/them.[1]
"Tilly has no idea what one is supposed to do in the situation that one has found oneself in."
As for Tilly themself, I fail to see how they contribute anything meaningful to the strip, yet. I would much rather see something of Marten for a while.
Case:
--- Quote from: flondrix on 06 Dec 2017, 09:04 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 06 Dec 2017, 04:24 ---Can you give me a reason why you think that this forum is a 'self-selecting' group that introduces bias? Unlike Patreon, there does not seem to be any obvious prerequisite criteria other than 'read QC once and noticed the link to the forums'.
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I doubt there is anyone here who read QC once. This forum consists of people who not only noticed the link to the forums, but felt compelled to click on it, read, weren't driven away by the nasty arguments, and felt compelled to comment. And of course have the time to waste.
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Uhmmmh - I googled "questionable content, forum" for the link. Does that count? :-\
Hey, guys? What's with the grim faces and the pitchforks? Guys? Heeeeeyyy?
--- Quote from: ToodleLew on 06 Dec 2017, 09:50 ---I hear dissonance when trying to use plural or collective pronouns for singular entities. Rather than deny Tilly pronouns, mentally, I substitute the indefinite pronoun "one" for Tilly's preferred they/them.[1]
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Yeah, it takes a bit getting used to. Otoh, my native language uses the exact same word for the female third person singular, the second third person plural and the formal direct address, and I never noticed until someone pointed it out recently.
TheBiscuit:
--- Quote from: Perfectly Reasonable on 05 Dec 2017, 19:06 ---I find trying to discuss a singular character with plural pronouns to be incredibly awkward. Instead of 'she does' is it supposed to be 'they does'? Or is it 'they do'? (As if Tilly has suddenly grown a second head.)
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I had the same thought while writing my last post. I had to use 'they were' instead of 's/he was' , but it only made me pause for a second. The polite option is to use for a person those pronouns that for which they have stated a preference. Is it something to which a lot of us may be unaccustomed, but I don't find it so terrible. Merely unfamiliar.
flondrix:
--- Quote from: Case on 06 Dec 2017, 09:55 ---Otoh, my native language uses the exact same word for the female third person singular, the second person plural and the informal direct address, and I never noticed until someone pointed it out recently.
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Of course not. Grammar is something that other languages have.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: flondrix on 06 Dec 2017, 09:04 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 06 Dec 2017, 04:24 ---Can you give me a reason why you think that this forum is a 'self-selecting' group that introduces bias? Unlike Patreon, there does not seem to be any obvious prerequisite criteria other than 'read QC once and noticed the link to the forums'.
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I doubt there is anyone here who read QC once. This forum consists of people who not only noticed the link to the forums, but felt compelled to click on it, read, weren't driven away by the nasty arguments, and felt compelled to comment. And of course have the time to waste.
I realizing this is changing, but I suspect it is still true that "normal" people are too busy working, socializing in meatspace, changing diapers, having sex, or whatever it is that normal people do, to devote much time to arguing about societal issues in the comments on a webcomic.
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I usually assume other people, like me, are commenting during worktime... :angel:
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