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WCDT Strips 3631 to 3635 (11th to 15th December 2017

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TinPenguin:

--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 11 Dec 2017, 09:09 ---A really good foil for both drama and comedy were taken away, and in return we get a trans character whom Marten has no real concerns with dating - besides it never really having been explored in any way at all, at any point - the realisation the Marten / Claire hook-up was (to me) WAY too easy... Unless, of course,  Marten just doesn't care much about anything... It was just too easy.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2801

This was the last time Claire seemed a half-way decent character...
Since she and Marten hooked up... I dunno.. went from a half way decent support cast to a totally bland main-caster. (And the nose ring was a bad mve IMO)

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See also #2808. "We'll talk to each other, and we'll figure out what needs figuring out."

I don't recall any of that figuring out ever happening.

I can understand why Jeph didn't want to delve too deeply into that aspect of Marten and Claire's relationship. However, dating someone who does not fit into the normal boxes is never easy (see also: dating anyone is never easy). No matter how accepting, or indeed passive, you are, there is so much space for drama and conflict. Because such relationships are often built upon an inherent conflict or incompatibility from the start, and the relative ability of both partners to look past it. Muddy waters when it comes to writing comics, though.

Technoir:

--- Quote from: shanejayell on 11 Dec 2017, 03:06 ---Tilly is more likable with no dialog.  :-P

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Somewhat in agreement, but for me it's more towards "Marginally less irritating sans dialog."


dutchrvl:

--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 11 Dec 2017, 09:31 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 11 Dec 2017, 09:09 ---A really good foil for both drama and comedy were taken away, and in return we get a trans character whom Marten has no real concerns with dating - besides it never really having been explored in any way at all, at any point - the realisation the Marten / Claire hook-up was (to me) WAY too easy... Unless, of course,  Marten just doesn't care much about anything... It was just too easy.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2801

This was the last time Claire seemed a half-way decent character...
Since she and Marten hooked up... I dunno.. went from a half way decent support cast to a totally bland main-caster. (And the nose ring was a bad mve IMO)

--- End quote ---

See also #2808. "We'll talk to each other, and we'll figure out what needs figuring out."

I don't recall any of that figuring out ever happening.

I can understand why Jeph didn't want to delve too deeply into that aspect of Marten and Claire's relationship. However, dating someone who does not fit into the normal boxes is never easy (see also: dating anyone is never easy). No matter how accepting, or indeed passive, you are, there is so much space for drama and conflict. Because such relationships are often built upon an inherent conflict or incompatibility from the start, and the relative ability of both partners to look past it. Muddy waters when it comes to writing comics, though.

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You probably are right that JJ simply didn't want to dive too much into all the, potentially extremely tense, emotional turmoil that could occur wrt Marten-Claire. Even with Marten being super-encouraging/understanding/accepting, there are still a lot of extraneous circumstances that are out of their control.

As for their relationship itself, I agree that it would normally be unlikely to succeed given the various circumstances. Personally, considering how good this comic has always been at being inclusive and treating any character as equal, I would find it interesting if conflict arises, Marten starts to have second-thoughts about their relationship, and he would find it hard to break up with her because of inner doubts about whether it's about her being trans, and/or outsiders judging him about breaking up with a trans-person.

That said, I don't have any problem with not going that direction with their relationship and just letting it go well and explore other aspects of Marten's live.

brasca:
One scenario that might keep Tilly around after the 48 hours is up is Penelope giving her 2 weeks notice after her publishing career takes off.  Hannelore would be the logical choice for assistant manager, but if she can’t handle the stress then she could delegate it to Tilly.

Puckish Rogue:
Yay more Tilly, shes just the best! No really, I'm not kidding, the more Tilly the better, honestly.

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