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WCDT Strips 3656-3660 (15th to 19th January 2018)
haikupoet:
My read on Bubbles' expression is that at least in part she sees Amanda and Evie together and is sad/jealous that it's not a double date.
Smallest:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 17 Jan 2018, 20:48 ---
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 17 Jan 2018, 20:30 ---The comparison of AIs to nuclear weapons was too much. Can I please, please punch Evie? I want to punch her. She has just been irritating since she showed up. First saying that Faye was "negging" her, and just generally being a douche. She's super annoying.
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Wow, new QC characters REALLY get hostile receptions these days.
Evie seems bright, pretty easygoing, and clearly has some issues when it comes to processing the humanity of AI entities in practice as opposed to on paper. Nobody's perfect. This is not a flaw that calls for being punched. :\
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I disagree. I mean, I don't want to punch her (yet), or hate her in any way near how people hated Tilly, but holy shit the way she was talking down to Bubbles, and her joked not-actually-an-excuse. I'm even more angry at her than I was at Marigold when she was holding Momo's new body over her [Momo's] head.
Although, re tonight's comic, I'm not totally sure if that's why Bubbles is mad, or if she's uncomfortable with Faye taking advantage of Melon's nature for financial gain (although since it was offered, this seems a lot more minor).
Smallest:
--- Quote from: SpanielBear on 17 Jan 2018, 20:26 ---Additionally, Bubbles was already being shown to feel uncomfortable about being de... I want to say depersonalised but it's not that. De-entitied? Objectified?
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I think you want 'dehumanized?'
SpanielBear:
--- Quote from: Smallest on 17 Jan 2018, 21:12 ---
--- Quote from: SpanielBear on 17 Jan 2018, 20:26 ---Additionally, Bubbles was already being shown to feel uncomfortable about being de... I want to say depersonalised but it's not that. De-entitied? Objectified?
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I think you want 'dehumanized?'
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Well I wondered about that. She doesn't self identify as human, so that word felt wrong there. The issue seems to be more around "personhood", although that also may be considered anthropomorphising. The point is that AI are sentient, intelligent, and have complex inner emotional lives. My point is they aren't just test subjects. They deserve respect and social awareness.
This isn't to say a respectful study of AI culture and its impact on the world couldn't be respectful. Like an anthropological study, as long as it was done sensitively and ethically it is absolutely of academic interest. Evie's mistake was to go into full "explain why my PhD is fascinating" mode without thinking about who she was talking to. I also don't think she did it at all maliciously or in bad faith, just got hyped over talking about her subject and didn't notice as her foot crept inexorably mouthwards.
I also don't want to punch her :-P
ChipNoir:
The thing with Evie is she basically denied a very real experience that Bubbles has had at least twice: The snot nosed teen-somethings talking behind her back, and the mom nervously expecting Bubbles to squish her child on a whim. Bubbles has probably spent her entire life facing prejudice for being essentially an AI tank in a humanoid body, and Evie outright said that humans have no baggage against AI's, that they're readily accepted, and that just hasn't been the case for Bubbles.
--- Quote from: Shjade on 17 Jan 2018, 20:48 ---
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 17 Jan 2018, 20:30 ---The comparison of AIs to nuclear weapons was too much. Can I please, please punch Evie? I want to punch her. She has just been irritating since she showed up. First saying that Faye was "negging" her, and just generally being a douche. She's super annoying.
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Wow, new QC characters REALLY get hostile receptions these days.
Evie seems bright, pretty easygoing, and clearly has some issues when it comes to processing the humanity of AI entities in practice as opposed to on paper. Nobody's perfect. This is not a flaw that calls for being punched. :\
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Evie strikes me as someone who suffers what I like to call "Campus Syndrome." Young, high-minded people who think the relative safety of a college campus is remotely the same as life outside said campus. There's a tendency there to think you know everything, and often an optimistic view point that doesn't match reality when you're given all this sense of knowledge, freedom, and self empowerment. You forget that shit is still really backwards in the world. It's even worse now with "Safe Spaces" that try to minimize exposure to the reality that humans will be shitty to anything they encounter that isn't familiar, and AI's are still extremely new by the sound of it, and people ARE hostile towards any AI that doesn't come in a cute pintsized/momo styled package.
It's basically a major distrust I have in modern higher learning. You're more educated but...I think the last couple batches have lost something in terms of dealing with social issues like what's being demonstrated here. If you live in an echo chamber of academic optimism, this is the sort of problem that will happen.
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