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WCDT Strips 3656-3660 (15th to 19th January 2018)

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mercykills:

--- Quote from: Shjade on 17 Jan 2018, 20:53 ---Judging by Faye's uncertain look back as they leave, I strongly suspect that's the direction this is headed.

Nothing wrong with disliking someone, but wanting to punch them for that is a concern. ;p

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--- Quote from: Shjade on 17 Jan 2018, 20:48 ---
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 17 Jan 2018, 20:30 ---The comparison of AIs to nuclear weapons was too much. Can I please, please punch Evie? I want to punch her. She has just been irritating since she showed up. First saying that Faye was "negging" her, and just generally being a douche. She's super annoying.

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Wow, new QC characters REALLY get hostile receptions these days.

Evie seems bright, pretty easygoing, and clearly has some issues when it comes to processing the humanity of AI entities in practice as opposed to on paper. Nobody's perfect. This is not a flaw that calls for being punched.  :\

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Holy sh*t! We're on the same side of something, Shjade. If that's not cause for scotch then I don't know what is.

Ok, people, YES, was Evie insensitive and will need a "talking to" + an apology to Bubbs be in her immediate future, yes. Is ANY of that worthy of physical violence, whether from Faye OR from forum-goers? Absolutely not. Let's calm it down, people. Evie got a bit too excited, didn't watch her fucking language like she should have and I wouldn't be shocked if when she realized her blunder she was horrified and tripped over herself to apologize to Bubbles.

......

If she doesn't THEN we burn her at the stake. :evil: :evil: :evil:

I kid, Shjade...I kid.

Milayna:
...????????

So I was at a convention awhile ago, rooming in the hotel with a friend, having paid my share of the rent and parking fees. There's a bunch of other people too, and 2 beds. Come time to sleep, my host asks me if I want to use a bed.

So I stop for a moment and say "Oh, well, I...brought my sleeping bag so I don't need it...I mean, if anyone else wants it, they can have it, that's fine." So she asks me again, more firmly, if "I" want the bed. And I spent the next 10 seconds stuttering until my girlfriend ordered me to take it because of my back problems.

...And I see nothing wrong with Faye taking the money that Melon offered. I don't understand how people are saying that Faye "took advantage" of Melon - to what length is one supposed to go to to refuse a freely-offered benefit to prove themselves "not a terrible person"? Hm? Hell, in my case, I hadn't done anything to receive the bed I was being offered - if Melon believes she received something worth paying for, and Faye is out of line in accepting, then what kind of parasitic monster would that imply I am?

And I *like* Melon, it's certainly not that I don't care what happens to her. She still offered payment, of her own choosing and her own prerogative, and it isn't Faye's responsibility to force her to not to do that.

As for Bubbles, my money's on Evie's crap, with a side of jealousy.

Milayna:
ChipNoir: You have no idea what a "safe Space" is, yet feel qualified to pontificate about it. Ironically enough, that's the same kind of arrogance that you are criticizing in Evie.

Imagine you're a trans person. Everywhere you go, people are shitty. Ohhhhh believe ChipNoir, if you're a LGBTQ, or autistic, or POC, or what have you, you are QUITE AWARE that the world is shitty, thank you very FUCKING much. A "safe Space" is an area where you can be assured no one's going to, say, put a bullet between your eyes because you wanted to take a piss. You can be there, and for the briefest respite, know that people accept you, you are safe...until you have to venture out to where all the shitty people are, again.

A "Safe Space" isn't a place for white cis etc people to go to avoid rude people or people being shitty bigots to each other, though I'm sure that's a convenient notion for justifying your notion of the cloistered college campus.

"Safe Spaces" often exist on college campuses BECAUSE the environment brings together so many people who've experienced various forms of bigotry, and the students, far from running away, decided to CONFRONT that by establishing an area where bigoted threats are not tolerated.

And for the record, it isn't anybody's duty to educate you about such things. You are capable of learning about them on your own, if you truly care. I simply decided to do so of my own prerogative.

Is it cold in here?:
Someone with more recent first-hand experience feel free to correct me. but I was under the impression that universities were environments very aware of injustice and bigotry.

Which makes Evie hard to understand. Her research absolutely must have put her in touch with robophobic attitudes. Why doesn't she act more aware?

I don't hate her for over-intellectualizing around an injured person, but agree that such a degree of nerdery requires consent. Bubbles was politely but unmistakably signaling discomfort.

Evie should try to catch her in a different mood. Bubbles is educated and thoughtful. A conversation like Evie was trying to start could actually succeed.

BenRG:
Wow, I think that Evie must have really upset Bubbles but I don't think that it was anything that was said on Monday. I'm thinking that it was something that happened off-panel whilst Faye and Amanda were exploring the endless fields of wonder that is Melon.

Here's a prediction: Based on panel 4, I think that Faye is going to be so worried about Bubbles that she'll bail and go back early to see her. That's when we'll find out exactly what Evie said and Faye probably will want to make Bubbles feel better as a priority (that will probably happen next week).

It's possible that this may be a big breach between Amanda and Faye. Faye may never want to be around Evie again if she thinks she's been sufficiently thoughtlessly cruel to Bubbles and Amanda might make it a "love me, love my girlfriend" thing. Siblings have had long-running feuds for far less but that would, IMO, be something of a tragedy.


--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 17 Jan 2018, 22:52 ---Someone with more recent first-hand experience feel free to correct me. but I was under the impression that universities were environments very aware of injustice and bigotry.

Which makes Evie hard to understand. Her research absolutely must have put her in touch with robophobic attitudes. Why doesn't she act more aware?
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One of the first things most sciences of this type teach (intentionally or otherwise) is intellectual distance. You can't easily research and diagnose if your perceptions and intellect are cluttered with empathy. It's possible that Evie is so good at thinking about her insights as if she's researching an impersonal 'faceless other' that's she's more-or-less lost the ability to see the people behind the research at all.

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