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WCDT strips 3666 to 3670 (29th January to 2nd February 2018)
Case:
--- Quote from: traroth on 31 Jan 2018, 06:43 ---
--- Quote from: Akima on 31 Jan 2018, 03:50 ---
--- Quote from: traroth on 31 Jan 2018, 02:29 ---Every single one of us is a study subject for various science disciplines. Medecine, psychology, sociology... They all study us in a distantiated, depassionated way. And that's actually fine, because that's how science works.
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"Works" includes some pretty ugly things, which revealed ugly things about the attitudes of those carrying out the studies. Consider the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, or Unit 631. The notion that a "distantiated, depassionated" study is necessarily fine, and therefore suspicion, and even hostility, from those being studied is unjustified, is certainly not one that I'd accept.
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Now, you are trying to make me say things I haven't. I maintain that science needs to be distantiated to get anything valuable done. Else, you get things like lysenkoism. That doesn't mean the choice of the study doesn't need to follow ethics or deontology. By the way, those racists experiments can hardly be called "science" by any objective observer...
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That's ... not even wrong.
And it's 'distanced', not distentiated.
traroth:
--- Quote from: Case on 31 Jan 2018, 06:47 ---
--- Quote from: traroth on 31 Jan 2018, 06:43 ---
--- Quote from: Akima on 31 Jan 2018, 03:50 ---
--- Quote from: traroth on 31 Jan 2018, 02:29 ---Every single one of us is a study subject for various science disciplines. Medecine, psychology, sociology... They all study us in a distantiated, depassionated way. And that's actually fine, because that's how science works.
--- End quote ---
"Works" includes some pretty ugly things, which revealed ugly things about the attitudes of those carrying out the studies. Consider the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, or Unit 631. The notion that a "distantiated, depassionated" study is necessarily fine, and therefore suspicion, and even hostility, from those being studied is unjustified, is certainly not one that I'd accept.
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Now, you are trying to make me say things I haven't. I maintain that science needs to be distantiated to get anything valuable done. Else, you get things like lysenkoism. That doesn't mean the choice of the study doesn't need to follow ethics or deontology. By the way, those racists experiments can hardly be called "science" by any objective observer...
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That's ... not even wrong.
And it's 'distanced', not distentiated.
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Thank you for correcting that poor french forum contributor...
What do you mean by "That's ... not even wrong"? That's not even a statement.
Is it cold in here?:
Things I have learned trying to manage this place:
Whenever you think the word "oversensitive" about someone from a marginalized group, that's a signal to stop and think some more, including asking yourself "Am I missing something?" or "What kind of experiences led to that reaction?".
Bubbles's experiences have rubbed her raw emotionally. Her reactions are not ideal for productive social interaction. But if someone told her she needs to chill, that would be just like saying "You need to grow thicker skin" to someone in a burn ward.
Trivia: burn wards are kept at summer temperatures, because people can get dangerously cold without the insulation that had been provided by the skin that got burned off.
shanejayell:
I liked the update. If Bubbles feels offended, she has every right to. They're her feelings after all.
Now Faye, give her a hug. :D
Magniras:
This comic really looks like Bubs had too much time to sit alone and stew. How many of you have made a conversation so much worse than it was because you over thought it? Because I know I've done it. A lot.
She says she told Evie the comparison was offensive, but all she did was say she resented the comparison. Evie was the one who called it offensive. I'm sure if Bubbles expressed her frustrations Evie would apologize for everything in a heartbeat.
Because I think a black lesbian from the south understands real issues that real people face.
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