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Something bothering me a lot
Aenno:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 07 Feb 2018, 06:07 ---So would the robot-psychologists in the QC world. Jeph said once that nobody knows why the AI citizens have libidos.
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Let's say I'm in quite different position with robot-psychologists from the QC world. ;)
That's why I'm started all of this from the very beginning (abscence of PTSD Bubbles have was, actually, quite secondary issue) - as nobody knows what's AI libidos, I can't imagine what Bubbles really feels here (and do she feels anything at all, or it's just playing around), and trying to understand it limited to "it's not matter, don't overanalyze".
ckridge:
You are having trouble relating to Bubbles. I can see that. Here is how it is possible. Suppose your basic existential position was like this:
>I am among these creatures, but not of them. There doesn't seem to be anyone quite like me. I am going to have to figure out how to live among them. I will read everything and try to figure them out.
OK, I can see roughly how this goes. I have feelings that resemble their feelings in some important respects. There are people in these stories who I want to emulate. I can do this.
Only, I don't seem to be wholly in control of my mind. I seem to have been built for other people's use. There are whole sections of my mind walled off from me, out of my control, and designed to make me more useful to others than to myself. Some of them are set up to make me kill and die on command. Some of them are set up to make me able to work harder for others than for myself. Some are set up to make me best able to think in concert with others. I have two problems, then. How can I find some good way to live among these creatures, and, since I seem to be built to serve, who is worthy of service?<
I have reason to believe that it is possible to feel like that, and so find Bubbles a sympathetic character.
Aenno:
I could sympathy this. I did feel sympathy to Station in Hannelore's Dad arc. I still would feel nonpleased to see comics about humans to be moved into being comics about AIs, but, well, it wasn't an arc centered of this development, and nobody force me to look for QC at all. I haven't arguing about Momo, who actually kinda centered on things you described - again, it's not very intresting for me (because I like human-problem arcs more, and because we have too little info about AI existence in QC universe, in my opinion), but it's not my comics to select themes.
Problem with Bubbles I have is exactly a problem she never expressed such a problems, and still it would be the central point to sympathize with her as with AI. For example, I never saw her as somebody irresistibally forced to serve humans (or any other AI, by the way - it looked like conscious choice they did), and definitly serving in military was Bubbles conscious' choice, choice other AIs disagree and scold Bubbles about.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote ---(and do she feels anything at all, or it's just playing around)
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All the evidence is that QC AI people feel emotions as genuinely as we do.
Aenno:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 07 Feb 2018, 15:22 ---
--- Quote ---(and do she feels anything at all, or it's just playing around)
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All the evidence is that QC AI people feel emotions as genuinely as we do.
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Well, I can't say humans feel emotions they declaring or showing every time, and this knowledge kinda was a point of Dora-Marten break-up.
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