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Meadomancer:
I think it says a lot about the setting that an angry green fungus evolved from a genetically engineered bioweapon is the closest there really is to good guys.
The Imperium is a bunch of literal fascist zealots who think blowing up their own planets is a good idea. The tyranids want to eat you and use your calories to make more tyranids to eat more people. Dark Eldar want to murder-fuck the universe, and spent so much time murder-fucking and snorting space-drugs that they accidentally created a god of murder-fucking and space-drugs. Necrons want to exterminate all life down to and including single-celled organisms. Tau basically enslave people because everyone is too stupid to take care of themselves (which is kind of a fair assessment of the setting) without the help of the tau (who are just as stupid as everyone else). Chaos wants to kill, murder-fuck, infect, and manipulate everyone, and are nonspecific as to the order in which that all occurs. No one knows what the deal is with Eldar, but the track record of the setting would suggest that whatever they're doing, it's weird, gross, and not nice.
Orks just wanna punch people, and would prefer that people punch back.
As far as how ridiculous the setting is, consider this: There was a discussion on an ork forum about whether or not orks have nipples. It was a serious, civil discussion that went on for something like 20 pages. The only thing that was decided was that they could possibly have belly buttons, but if they do, they probably have lots of them all over.
Neko_Ali:
I would hardly call a race that only wants to fight, kill and steal to be a good guy. There is a purity in their simplicity, but they are still vicious brutes that will fight and destroy anything they can get their hands on and have left entire systems wrecked in their wake.
If you were to try to pick a 'good guy', then Tau and Craftworld Eldar have the least problematic cultures. The Tau are simply military expansionist and are relatively good to those they conquer, even if they are treated as second class citizens. Craftworld Eldar are not like their Dark kin, they know their race is dying and they are trying to put off the inevitable end as long as they can. And maybe if possible correct the mistake of the ancient Aeldari and destroy the chaos god they gave birth to. They do not war against each other and have no interest in conquering. But they also have no interest in any other race and consider most of them beneath them. They would gladly destroy an entire planet and kill billions if their Farseers told them it could save a dozen Eldar lives. But at least they are not actively evil and killing just for the joy of it.
TheEvilDog:
Although the Tau were nearly removed after their introduction due to their unambiguous "goodness" and positivity.
Hence why in later editions GW gave them a more ambiguous stance. Yes, they still follow the belief of the Greater Good, but then the first alien race that embraced the idea soon died of a very suspicious plague that only affected their race, right after the Tau learned all they could. Then there's the Vespid. The Tau encounter an alien species so alien that they can't communicate. Communion helms are crafted and gifted to the leaders of the Vespid and low and behold, suddenly the leaders understand the Greater Good and want to join. GW avoided the pitfall of making them actually good and set them a little closer to the moral ambiguity of the Craftworld Eldar and the Imperium.
In the case of the Eldar, its all about survival, and like Neko_Ali said, a Farseer would happily engineer events where billions of Humans are dead if it mean that a handful of Eldar lives are saved somewhere down the line. In their eyes, the end more than justifies the means.
And oddly enough, despite everything, the Tyranids, along with Orks, are perhaps the only true neutral races in the setting. Yes, they've been presented as a galactic horde of locusts devouring everything in their way. However recent materials indicates that the Tyranids aren't invading, they're fleeing something worse. Its not an invasion, its a stampede.
Morituri:
Angry fungus that punch people, eh? Sure, why not. :roll:
BenRG:
Not angry; the Orkz are almost never angry in the strictest definition of the word. They like their racial lifestyle, communicate this clearly and act appropriately. :laugh:
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