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Thoughts about the Warhammer 40,000 universe
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Morituri on 08 Jul 2018, 20:06 ---Angry fungus that punch people, eh? Sure, why not. :roll:
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You know, its rather easy to be dismissive of something when you are ignorant of it.
In the 40K setting, Orks were bred for war. Their entire existence is dedicated to fighting, they live for war. So much so that their bodies can withstand the most brutal surgeries and recovery is near instantaneous because it means they can get back to fighting sooner. Not only that, but the more an Ork fights, the larger they become, which serves as a clarion call for challengers, because only the largest and strongest Orks lead.
And yeah, they are fungoid. In fact, thats the reason why they are the most numerous race in the galaxy and why they are so dangerous. When an Ork dies, their body releases hundreds, if not thousands, of spores, which float off and settle. These spores can end up being Orks, or their slave race or their attack beasts/meals or even just ordinary fungus that failed to mature. Now, you never just see one Ork, you see thousands or millions of them. Now imagine that even if you killed all of the invading Orks on a planet, you think you're safe, you won. Only, a few years later, even more of the Greenskins come charging at you!
Now, the thing is, Orks don't hate anyone, not in the way any other faction hates anyone. If they can get a good fight, the Orks love it! So much so that there is a word in their language that translates to "favoured enemy/hated friend".
BenRG:
IIRC, it was the endemic nature of Orks and Tyranids that led to the Imperium to develop their doctrine of Exterminatus, the use of orbital bombardment to completely sterilise the surface of an inhabited world. Burning the entire land surface down to the bedrock is essentially the only way to be sure that you've removed an infestation.
The fact that the Holy Orders of the Emperor's Inquisition have also found it a useful tool (although not commonly used) for planets where far too many people question the political and religious orthodoxies of the Imperium is a typical bit of 'local colour' and just reminds us that the WH40k universe isn't 'black against white' or even 'grey against grey' but 'black against maybe a touch greyer-than-black'. :wink: Seriously though, given that large-scale heresy usually strongly implies mass psionic subversion of the populace by the Dark Gods of the Warp (basically intangible ultra-demons), the Inquisition may be forgiven for occasionally resorting to extreme measures).
LeeC:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 09 Jul 2018, 04:06 ---The fact that the Holy Orders of the Emperor's Inquisition have also found it a useful tool (although not commonly used) for planets where far too many people question the political and religious orthodoxies of the Imperium is a typical bit of 'local colour' and just reminds us that the WH40k universe isn't 'black against white' or even 'grey against grey' but 'black against maybe a touch greyer-than-black'. :wink: Seriously though, given that large-scale heresy usually strongly implies mass psionic subversion of the populace by the Dark Gods of the Warp (basically intangible ultra-demons), the Inquisition may be forgiven for occasionally resorting to extreme measures).
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Then again exterminatus isnt always fire and cinder. In many cases its virus bombs that just wipe out humanity. I wonder how Nurgle feels about all this.
--- Quote from: Morituri on 08 Jul 2018, 20:06 ---Angry fungus that punch people, eh? Sure, why not. :roll:
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Hehe not angry. They are essentially English soccer (football) hooligans just looking to fight rivals for fun. Nothing hateful about them, its just fun to fight and the best thing to do. There are some cases where a particular ork leader may hate a particular person (Thraka hating Yarrick for example) but all in all they just want a good fight, win or lose. Just like how a soccer (football) fan wants a good game win or lose rather than a shut out ever game. Where would the fun be in that? They are aggressive but they're not angry. They provide the universe with a ton of comedy and are just over all fun. They even yell gun sounds while shooting their guns! Its all very silly, but its all very fun.
Morituri:
Don't get me wrong; at this point I'm not 'belittling' so much as 'bemused.' Actually I was having a giggle as I imagine the game designers sitting around working on the concepts that became this game. (Probably smoking weed, a few years before it became legal).
"How about... Homicidal Fungus!"
"Huh... that's bizarre, but not twisted. Weren't we going for twisted here?"
"Uh, they look like orcs! You know, from Thatothergame.... And they were bred for war, yeah!"
"Breeding fungus?"
"Breeding, genetic engineering, whatever. Just go with it, right? 'Just go with it' is... well, it's been an essential philosophy here! For the twisted part though, you know how hard it is to get rid of something that sporulates? It justifies that whole-planet sterilization thing we were talking about! Or anyway, it justifies them turning those against entire planets full of their own people!"
"Hey, I got one... People under assault by these... You know, we gotta at least spell that differently .... Anyway, they call for help, right? And then their navy gets there, and they're all like, 'Thank God,' right? And then their own ships carpet-bomb them into oblivion."
"Yeah, that's getting twisted!"
"Think it's twisted enough?"
"Nah, let's make these ... Ork with a 'k'? Make 'em jolly and happy to be slaughtering everything."
"I guess that would add a little bit more twisted, let's do it!"
"Fungus don't have sexes. How do we wanna play that?"
"Uh, maybe ... Nope, no way you can justify boobs on fungus."
"Could we... I dunno, can we make that twisted somehow?"
"Not without pissing off all the female gamers."
"But they're gonna be okay with the 'Penitence Engine' thing you were talking about?"
"Sure. What problem could they possibly have with that?"
Tova:
Posting so I can follow this thread which, as someone who knew even less than Morituri before I started reading (nothing more beyond the involvement of war and figurine painting), is fascinating to me.
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