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WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
Tai Fanboi:
With regards to the drug testing debate... Well most companies will tell you it's about health and happy employees. Most will say federal guidelines, company policy etc. Basically when you boil it down, it's the same as anything. Liability. They don't want the bad PR, they don't want to have money come out of their pockets. I'll use two very extreme, very fictional examples. Company A, let's call it Schmoeing... Schmoeing makes airplane parts for commercial and government contracts. Little Timmy is blitzed on ghost pepper nitrous shots, or whatever the kids are doing now'a'days, and his cuts on ginglymus #3 are half an inch out of spec. This results in a commercial airliner having a forced landing and an FAA investigation. Now, if Schmoeing didn't do drug tests? Senators and Congressmen would be on the news blaming their lack of principles and dragging them through the mud, jeopardizing the contracts and the entire company. But since they do, now they increase scrutiny for awhile, random testing becomes mandatory for a few months, everything dies down when one of the Kardashians sneezes and pushes the story out of the news, and everything can go back to normal where it's truly a random screen, and/or the company can use it to try to trip up some problematic employee and fire them for policy violation and not have to pay them severance or unemployment.
Company B. Grandma's Groceries, HVAC system has a vent and a fan that blows over a warm plate of oatmeal cookies for the proper ambiance while shopping. Billy has worked for Grandma for years, model employee. Billy does like his Sweet Chowder though (Cocaine and Sour dough, drug soup out of Boston y'know) but he is responsible and doesn't do it at work. However someone called out sick on Billy's day off and Grandma is in a bind so he wanted to help out. He gets the shakes at work and while he's stocking a shelf full of surströmming his shakes knock over a can and it lands on some ladies head, now she's going to sue the whole company. Grandma's now in trouble and her reputation is in the tank because her company hires no good, strung out hop heads and she doesn't test them all for the devils lettuce.
Basically, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Most companies simply have it as another possible tool in their legal bag of tricks for when/if something ever happens. This way blame can be shifted to the degenerate, drug using employee as opposed to the company itself.
War Sparrow:
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 14 Nov 2018, 02:33 ---...how many Wal-Marts even have produce? To me, this is the sine qua non, with even a few convenience stores around me having onions, potatoes, and bananas, but not the local Wal-Mart, which doesn't have firearms, but if it did they'd most likely be between the mountain bikes and the fishing rods. Wal-Mart's a department store, not a grocery store, or even anything in between. Sure, they've got a few packaged foods, but even Staples has candy.
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The Supercentres all have produce; they're pretty common here in Canada. But you don't buy guns in ours, to my knowledge.
Neko_Ali:
--- Quote from: War Sparrow on 14 Nov 2018, 06:38 ---
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 14 Nov 2018, 02:33 ---...how many Wal-Marts even have produce? To me, this is the sine qua non, with even a few convenience stores around me having onions, potatoes, and bananas, but not the local Wal-Mart, which doesn't have firearms, but if it did they'd most likely be between the mountain bikes and the fishing rods. Wal-Mart's a department store, not a grocery store, or even anything in between. Sure, they've got a few packaged foods, but even Staples has candy.
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The Supercentres all have produce; they're pretty common here in Canada. But you don't buy guns in ours, to my knowledge.
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I honestly have not seen a non-supercenter Wal Mart in a lot of years. The same with K-mart, if you can find one of those still open. There was a time when they were just department stores, but these days if you find one it's probably an old legacy story that hasn't been scrapped in favor of a new supercenter yet. They want to make sure you buy as much as possible from them.
Theta9:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 14 Nov 2018, 01:14 ---
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--- Quote from: Theta9 on 13 Nov 2018, 16:45 ---
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 13 Nov 2018, 05:42 ---Yeah, drug testing is a feature of many professions. I got regularly tested as a software developer working for a major corporation.
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I was a school bus driver until just a couple of months ago, and anybody who wants a Commercial Driver's License has to submit to a DoT physical which includes a drug test - DoT is a federal body. Even though weed's legal here in Oregon.
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So weed is legal in Oregon, but if you smoke some, you may loose your job, if you are a bus driver. How weird is that?
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Much the same as... "Alcohol is legal, but if you drink it then try to drive a bus, you'll lose your job.", I would imagine?
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Difference is, you only test positive for alcohol when you're actually drunk. Smoke up on a Friday evening after work, you can test positive even a couple of weeks later, even if you're cold sober when tested.
Theta9:
So I'm still not clear on this... does Tai like to party?
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