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WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
traroth:
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--- Quote from: Theta9 on 13 Nov 2018, 16:45 ---
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 13 Nov 2018, 05:42 ---Yeah, drug testing is a feature of many professions. I got regularly tested as a software developer working for a major corporation.
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I was a school bus driver until just a couple of months ago, and anybody who wants a Commercial Driver's License has to submit to a DoT physical which includes a drug test - DoT is a federal body. Even though weed's legal here in Oregon.
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So weed is legal in Oregon, but if you smoke some, you may loose your job, if you are a bus driver. How weird is that?
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Much the same as... "Alcohol is legal, but if you drink it then try to drive a bus, you'll lose your job.", I would imagine?
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No, that's not the same at all! I never spoke about cannabis consumption at work. Traces of cannabis consumption can be detected in a blood sample months after last consumption, so it's a total ban for those who have drug tests for professional reasons.
Nepiophage:
--- Quote from: Sullivan on 13 Nov 2018, 23:47 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 13 Nov 2018, 21:17 ---ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
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ed is a very very bad text editing program, long since superseded. Even vi is better. Anyone who really believed the above would be in serious need of psychiatric help.
cesium133:
--- Quote from: Nepiophage on 14 Nov 2018, 08:47 ---
--- Quote from: Sullivan on 13 Nov 2018, 23:47 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 13 Nov 2018, 21:17 ---ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
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ed is a very very bad text editing program, long since superseded. Even vi is better. Anyone who really believed the above would be in serious need of psychiatric help.
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Of course. Nano is the true path to enlightenment.
Bollthorn:
Taisqueak is adorable ^-^
Roborat:
--- Quote from: A small perverse otter on 13 Nov 2018, 14:07 ---
--- Quote from: Roborat on 13 Nov 2018, 12:06 ---
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 13 Nov 2018, 05:42 ---Yeah, drug testing is a feature of many professions. I got regularly tested as a software developer working for a major corporation.
Off-topic - this is either a Tapatalk bug or some weird interaction between the forum and Tapatalk, but Tapatalk is informing me that I am banned from the forum. Obviously this is incorrect since I can still post through a browser. But somebody with access to the back end may want to take a look.
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I can see random drug testing for occupations that have a strong safety aspect, but a software developer? Really? What are you going to do, program some really laid back code?
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There are at least three reasons. One is uniformity: if you test and fire fork-lift operators, you need to treat your software developers the same way. Just saying "Well, it won't matter" is both unfair and possibly untrue. You don't actually know what downstream consequences your policy might have. The second is liability mitigation: on-premise intoxication is closely associated with an increase in HR violations, ranging from misuse of company resources...like, you know, a fork-lift?...to increases in impermissible harassment. The third is information and physical security: if you are using a controlled substance incorrectly, then your risk of activities which impair site or information security rises due to impaired judgment.
You can reasonably argue that the same concerns apply to alcohol, and you'd be right. That's one of the reasons that some companies impose a no alcohol policy on company events: they're limiting risk.
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All valid points, I agree with you, now that I think about it, I wasn't looking at big picture, just focusing on why some coder being high would be an issue. However, there is one thing I am concerned about. I agree with not being high at work, same as not being drunk or otherwise impaired at work, but the problem with random drug testing for marijuana is that it will pick up what you did a week ago, when you partook in your own free time on the weekend, even though you are completely free of any effects at work. That needs to be refined so that false positives don't occur.
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