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Blue Kitty:
So out of all the sequel trilogy I'd say Rise of Skywalker was the weakest, with Last Jedi being my first pick and Force Awakens at #2. But overall I'd put them way higher than the prequel trilogy and Solo. I'd even go so far to say that the Phantom Menace was better than Solo

Of course they are all Star Wars and I enjoyed watching them

Tova:
As far as I am concerned, Luke's climactic scene is the greatest cinematic moment of any Star Wars film (yes, even greater than that moment).

JoeCovenant:

--- Quote from: Tova on 24 Jan 2020, 22:41 ---...Luke's climactic scene...

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Which one?

cybersmurf:
Finally saw it the other day. Oh, muh, gawd, Disney! Blatantly throwing around clichés.
Got to agree with my brother, who said "You know who was on point? John Williams."

LeeC:
I wasn't a fan of The Rise of Skywalker, but sometimes good things can come out of disasters, and sometimes from an unlikely place.

For example in the novelization of the film, they explain how Palpatine ends up in episode 9. He's a clone. Thats a bit easier to swallow than not having died. But the junior novelization explains (retcons) what rule of 2 actually is. Now I pulled this from an article so I have not read either novelizations, but I have to say I rather like this retcon.

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/star-wars-sith-lords-rule-of-two-retcon-rise-of-skywalker/

Basically the Jedi think the rule of 2 means there are only 2 Siths, ever, at any given time. But that's what the Sith wants them to think, they've cultivated that assumption. The rule of 2 in reality is the rule of only 2 Sith Lords (a master and an apprentice) to prevent infighting or else nothing gets done. They are to be the tip of the Sith iceberg, being the only thing seen by others outside of the Sith (which explains what the Jedi thinks it means). The rest of the sith are acolytes, agents, soldiers, cultists, etc. I liken it to Warhammer 40k's genestealer cults (in a hierarchical way, not biologically, that would be insane). With the Leader being the Patriarch (The Lord of the Sith) and his second in command the Magus or Primus (the sith apprentice fills both of these roles) with the rest of the cult is made up of worshipers, soldiers, newcomers and descendants of those that have been apart of the organization since its inception that infiltrate society and allow the leaders to pull the strings when needed. In the movie it explains why there are sith cultists and shock troops on that secret sith planet. It would also explain in Rebels where those Inquistors came from as well as how the Emperor could control everything (all the way down to Admiral Pryde in The Rise of Skywalker).

I like this retcon because it makes the Sith more devious and a larger threat than previously perceived, not to mention narratively flexible for future stories (even if we go back to old republic and old old republic). It also seems to be more believable on how Palpatine took over and held control of the galaxy and how his death, along with his apprentice, would cause such disorganization in the empire. At least until his clone was activated and he started orchestrating his return with the First and Last Orders. It doesn't excuse the movie(s) at all, but I like that this retcon opens some doors that felt shut/pandering from the movies.

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