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JoeCovenant:
Groovy post!
Couple of things...?
--- Quote from: Tova on 16 Dec 2019, 17:35 ---Like I said, it's not worth getting into the Rey argument. There are perfectly good reasons why, for example, Rey could stand up to Kylo in TFA, but I'm sure you're perfectly aware of them in spite of not bothering to mention them, so it's pointless to bring them up.
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Personally... I'm not aware of any reasons at all that Rey could do what she did.
I would be willing to concede that he should take a little longer than his normal 0.2 seconds to despatch her, due to his being shot... like, say.. 0.4 seconds. But As for the rest... (mind reading, person manipulation etc etc.. nope I've seen no reasons for that.)
--- Quote from: Tova on 16 Dec 2019, 17:35 ---I'll go and enjoy The Last Skywalker when it's released. Warts and all, most likely, since they all have their warts. Even Rogue One, which I thought was marvellous.
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:) The Last Skywalker... If that's a typo... well... but if that was intentional... Brilliant! :)
I already have my seats booked in our new Odeon LUXE cinema... quite expensive(!)
I've been reading a few things (non spoilers things) where the cast and JJ are finally being disparaging about TLJ, and discussing the way they are trying to 'overcome' it... I HATE to say this, because I felt this way for both the previous ones...
I have hope this will end well.
I really wanted to love the last two... I REALLY want to adore this last one.
And I REALLY hope I'm not disappointed !!
(And yeah... Rogue One kicks erse!!)
Tova:
Completely unintentional, but too amusing to fix. I can just see myself calling them The Last Skywalker and The Rise of The Jedi now. :roll:
I hope it will be a fitting conclusion! I always expect the worst, hope for the best with these things.
And I hope we don't see more of the kind of vitriol we've seen within the fanbase since TLJ, because it honestly drains me.
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 17 Dec 2019, 02:29 ---I would be willing to concede that he should take a little longer than his normal 0.2 seconds to despatch her, due to his being shot... like, say.. 0.4 seconds.
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I thought he was trying to recruit her, not dispatch her. Same as the Vader v. Luke duel in Empire. Otherwise i guess it would have been over very quickly in both cases.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Tova on 17 Dec 2019, 04:15 ---Completely unintentional, but too amusing to fix. I can just see myself calling them The Last Skywalker and The Rise of The Jedi now. :roll:
I hope it will be a fitting conclusion! I always expect the worst, hope for the best with these things.
And I hope we don't see more of the kind of vitriol we've seen within the fanbase since TLJ, because it honestly drains me.
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 17 Dec 2019, 02:29 ---I would be willing to concede that he should take a little longer than his normal 0.2 seconds to despatch her, due to his being shot... like, say.. 0.4 seconds.
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I thought he was trying to recruit her, not dispatch her. Same as the Vader v. Luke duel in Empire. Otherwise i guess it would have been over very quickly in both cases.
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In the 2nd one, yeah I can appreciate that - but that doesn't explain her abilities and the reasons WHY he wold want to recruit her.
Annnnyway...... ;)
Tova:
You don't see why, even though she's strong in the force, that's what Sith do, and it satisfactorily explains the whole scene.
Yeah, as I've been saying... you're actively seeking out logical explanations for one set of films, and actively resisting them for another.
Think about it. That's all I ask.
See ya on the flip side of the next one.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Tova on 17 Dec 2019, 11:27 ---You don't see why, even though she's strong in the force, that's what Sith do, and it satisfactorily explains the whole scene.
Yeah, as I've been saying... you're actively seeking out logical explanations for one set of films, and actively resisting them for another.
Think about it. That's all I ask.
See ya on the flip side of the next one.
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:) I'm not resisting them Tova, I just don't SEE them.
And I watched TFA last night just to see if I was missing something - but I don't think I am.
I paused the shots of "Young Rey" to see if she was maybe wearing youngling robes... Nope.
She's heard stories of Skywalker, but only so much that she thinks they are myths.
She doesn't know what the force is at all.
Don't get me wrong, I've no problem with a prodigy being strong with the force... it's the way she's just instantly able to use abililties immediately which we've only ever seen Obi Wan use (and he was Ooooold!)
I don't see the correlation.
But I also don't see anyone explaining why these things are "fine".
As for No:9...
Friday night late show!
(I'd LOVE JJ to give us an explanation of Rey's instant abilities... (Training as a youngling (feasible - she was old enough in TFA for that to be a thing... hypontised or similar to forget everything/one...) whereas it would be a bit... pat... it's still better than the Mary-Sueing.
(Yeah... I said it!! :) )
And now.. pause... :)
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