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JoeCovenant:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 04 Nov 2019, 08:38 ---Then just to keep matters unpredictable there are the people who really do want feedback.

I knew someone who'd completed a book and published it. He asked people he knew in the industry for feedback. Instead of being affirming and validating I gave him a list of strengths and weaknesses. He was delighted to get the actual feedback he was asking for instead of the "oh it's great" he got from everybody with social skills.

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A friend of mine has sent me the first few chapters of their current WIP.

And I'm tearing it to shreds. (Because, in my opinion, it's not written very well.)

But they asked for my opinion as an author.
Whether or not they can *take* that constructive criticism will (I feel) also make them discover whether or not they really do want to write in any professional capacity. I only began to learn what I was doing wrong when I had an MS similarly torn to bits. It was the absolutely best thing for me at the time and certainly what I needed.

Wingy:
Ditto.  A good editor is priceless, even though you hate them for a while.  I just hope you couch the critiqued MS with that story so your friend remains your friend.

Gyrre:
Ran across another weird thing. Might be regional, don't know.

Apparently there are people who think women eating in public ("especially alone") is selfish. The (il)logic is that it "shows that women have   desires that benefit them (and only them) personally...."

Here's the article.

Thrillho:

--- Quote from: Wingy on 04 Nov 2019, 06:08 ---A lot of "rude" is about whether the opinion was solicited or not.  If someone you know well asks your opinion about X, and you give them an honest answer, you're honest.

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Oh, I don't know about that.

I think one of the most aut-blocked things in my head for many years was that someone directly asking you for your honest opinion does not necessarily mean that they are actually asking for that.


--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 04 Nov 2019, 08:38 ---Then just to keep matters unpredictable there are the people who really do want feedback.

I knew someone who'd completed a book and published it. He asked people he knew in the industry for feedback. Instead of being affirming and validating I gave him a list of strengths and weaknesses. He was delighted to get the actual feedback he was asking for instead of the "oh it's great" he got from everybody with social skills.

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As an autistic former journalist, if people ask me to review something then I always warn them in advance that I will be absolutely savage, constructively, and not to ask me if they can't handle that.


--- Quote from: Gyrre on 05 Nov 2019, 06:52 ---Ran across another weird thing. Might be regional, don't know.

Apparently there are people who think women eating in public ("especially alone") is selfish. The (il)logic is that it "shows that women have   desires that benefit them (and only them) personally...."

Here's the article.

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I clicked the link expecting to find it ludicrous, but it was deeply thought-provoking.

Gyrre:
Donct get me wrong, the part analyzing film is quite interesting. I have a few films to rewatch with this article in mind.

It's the societal conditions and expectations (that have flown over my head for 3+ decades) that are asinine.

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