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WCDT 4111-4115 (October 14th-18th, 2019)
Cornelius:
Im is the contracted form of in dem, if I'm not mistaken.
edited to undo autocorrect
cybersmurf:
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 22 Oct 2019, 08:07 ---I'm is the contacted firm of in dem, if I'm not mistaken.
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That is correct. Since 'Maschine' is a female noun, it's "in der", not "in dem", that may be the issue here.
German uses (at least according to what I've heard) 'grammatical genders', things like this can be hard, especially for non-native speakers.
Theta9:
--- Quote from: cybersmurf on 22 Oct 2019, 13:29 ---
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 22 Oct 2019, 08:07 ---I'm is the contacted firm of in dem, if I'm not mistaken.
--- End quote ---
That is correct. Since 'Maschine' is a female noun, it's "in der", not "in dem", that may be the issue here.
German uses (at least according to what I've heard) 'grammatical genders', things like this can be hard, especially for non-native speakers.
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now waitaminute, "der" is the article used for masculine nouns, nicht wahr? So if "Maschine" is feminine, then der Maschine sounds incorrect to me; should it not be die Maschine?
Penquin47:
Der is the article for masculine nouns in the nominative case (subject). Die is the feminine.
However, this would be dative case (indirect object). For dative case, the articles are dem (masc and neut) and der (fem). der Maschine is correct.
cybersmurf:
--- Quote from: Penquin47 on 22 Oct 2019, 21:51 ---Der is the article for masculine nouns in the nominative case (subject). Die is the feminine.
However, this would be dative case (indirect object). For dative case, the articles are dem (masc and neut) and der (fem). der Maschine is correct.
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This is correct. While it's not that hard to make yourself understood, mastering German is a task a lot of native speakers fail. So don't feel bad for getting this wrong, especially if you haven't used German in a while. Languages fade fast if not used.
A bunch of languages lost cases, or at least most of them. Like Italian and Spanish, although being based on Latin (which had six cases, and three genders [male, female, neutral]), basically ditched cases and lost the neutral gender.
Whoever says English is hard because of the spelling never tried to learn German. Spelling is not that weird, but Grammar is effed up compared to English.
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