Topic: OMG VINYLS (Read 16957 times)

Johnny C · « **on:** 17 Jan 2005, 17:37 »

What do Bachman Turner Overdrive, Michael Jackson, Talking Heads, Streetheart, Fleetwood Mac, The Official Soundtrack Of Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, Queen, Dire Straits and The Police have in common?

I found their best records in a Salvation Army vinyl rack for 99 cents apiece! Yep, you read that right. Not Fragile, Thriller, one of the original pressings of Talking Heads:77, some Streetheart album which I have not listened to yet, Rumours, the aforementioned soundtrack, News Of The World, Brothers In Arms, and Synchronicity, all for 99 cents each. Cost me about nine bucks. I was incredibly excited, as I got a combination stereo (radio/cassette/CD/vinyl) for Christmas but had no records to play on it other than Raffi's ill-advised attempt at adult-contemporary folk-rock, Adult Entertainment.

Anybody else have any real good finds on vinyl?

muffy · « **Reply #1 on:** 17 Jan 2005, 17:59 »

My vinyl finds tend to be really exciting at first (cyndi lauper - Â£2, The Clash - Â£4, Tears for Fears - Â£2 and a bunch of other great things), but then I get them into the great outdoors and discover them to be warped or generally really fuzzy sounding. Then again, I was never brought up on vinyl and still don't have my own record player, so don't know what to look for. My most embarassing moment was trying to play Duran Duran - Girls on Film at our freshers ball and listening in horror as the record made this loud 'swooshing' sort of noise every 3 seconds. I blamed the equipment, as every person should if in that situation...

nickyandthefuture · « **Reply #2 on:** 17 Jan 2005, 18:04 »

I got a whole bunch of old Sugar Hill 12" singles (Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, .etc) at a Salvation Army a while back. That was probably my most awesome find.
I get all of my classical music from there, too.
Along those lines, were "Sing Along With Mitch" records the most popular things ever pressed into vinyl, or do they just show up disproportionately at thrift shops?

muffy · « **Reply #3 on:** 17 Jan 2005, 18:12 »

I did forget my favourite ever Vinyl purchase -
The Shampoo album.
Complete with 'Trouble'.
Five english pounds.
Worth every penny...
Two people have already tried to steal it from me.

Beano · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 Jan 2005, 11:43 »

You can get U2 really cheaply on vinyl, certainly cost you a lot less than it would on cd.

Some of the 60s and 70s stuff even reeks of stale smoke.

honest_that_way · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 Jan 2005, 12:19 »

I got Rattle and Hum for 50p, I asked for the money back. God how I hate U2

Beano · « **Reply #6 on:** 18 Jan 2005, 13:58 »

Did you not know you hated U2 before you bought Rattle and Hum?

7" vinyl is also fun, seeing as most singles nowadays cost Â£1.99 for a radio edit and a b-side, you might as well save 50p or a Â£1 and get it on vinyl.

catflea · « **Reply #7 on:** 19 Jan 2005, 05:04 »

Somehow, its far more satisfying to listen to stuff on vinyl (why can i NEVER spell that word?) and its useful to have a song you are learning on 7" cos you can slow it down to 33 to play along until you properly get it.

blindsuperhero · « **Reply #8 on:** 19 Jan 2005, 07:39 »

Hang on, wouldn't that completely change what key the song was in? (well, yes, it would)
How would that help?

honest_that_way · « **Reply #9 on:** 19 Jan 2005, 07:46 »

I did know I already hated them, but I thought hmmm 50p and I can see if there's anything interestign on it. No, it sucked. Well, Hendrix didn't. U2 did.

El Opium · « **Reply #10 on:** 19 Jan 2005, 10:20 »

Never had a really awesome find on vinyl. I don't think people in my neck of the woods give away cool albums very often. Though I did myself find copies of rumors and synchronicity.

LoveandaMolotovCocktail · « **Reply #11 on:** 19 Jan 2005, 11:19 »

Hmm...for 25 cents - $2 at different places

Tons of Beatles
Tons of Beatles solo stuff
Some Clash
Lots of Talking Heads
Some Pink Floyd

Different other stuff like Patti Smith and Television at random times too.

Revenge_Therapist · « **Reply #12 on:** 14 May 2005, 13:44 »

I got Clash's London Calling for like $6 at a used record stor on vinyl. PURE AWESOME!

blindsuperhero · « **Reply #13 on:** 14 May 2005, 13:49 »

Heh, my parents bought me Billy Bragg - Life's a Riot with Spy vs. Spy on vinyl for Christmas, on the sleeve it says "pay no more than £2.99 for this 7-track album", so the kind people at Oxfam had priced it at £2.99. I went in to the local Oxfam record store a couple of days ago, they had Elvis Costello - Punch The Clock, but most of the stuff in there was rubbish. I suppose you just have to keep looking until you find the good stuff. Interestingly, they had the exact same recording of Menuhin playing the Mendelssohn Violin Concerto that I bought from another second-hand shop last summer for £1.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #14 on:** 14 May 2005, 13:55 »

Keep checking Oxfam Books And Music in Headingley, I've found a lot of good stuff there. Captain Beefheart - Ice Cream For Crow, Toto - IV, Devo - Freedom of Choice, Buffalo Tom - Birdbrain and a bunch of other things which escape me for the moment.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #15 on:** 14 May 2005, 16:36 »

I don't buy vinyl.

The only three vinyl I remotely want are Skyclad's 'Classix Shape' picture disc (which is rarer than a smooth french armpit, to coin a racist epithet) and the original pressing of 'Bathory' by Bathory. The one where the Baphomet on the cover has glowing red eyes and the pentagram on the back is red. (They're even rarer, as they were indiscriminately burnt by fundy christians in Sweden in the eighties) and Mayhem-Dawn of the Black Hearts, just because it's so utterly kvlt.

Beyond that, I really don't see the point. Plus, there's nothing cheap I'd want on vinyl (ie oldies) that's not in my dads (unseemingly vast) collection. And the very idea of a local record store stocking vinyl from any of my favourite bands makes me chuckle.

Heartily.

But seriously, the CD is just so all round better in absolutely every way.

Inlander · « **Reply #16 on:** 14 May 2005, 17:02 »

I don't buy vinyl - the absence of a record player makes it rather pointless - but my Mum has some classic L.P.s and 45s from her 60s London youth. Best among them is a 45 of "All Along the Watchtower" by Jimi Hendrix. Once you've heard that with the authentic vinyl crackle, there is no other way to listen to it.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #17 on:** 14 May 2005, 18:33 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

But seriously, the CD is just so all round better in absolutely every way.

What about the much bigger cover art? Also, splitting a record into two halves really works well for some albums. Someone once told me 'Raining Blood' sounds much better on vinyl because the it works great like that, and with the CD version (like I have) it's missing just a little something flowing as one. I definitely think that's true with 'Lift Your Skinny Wrists Like Antennas To Heaven', it's definitely much better split into four as it is on the vinyl than two like on CD, and with a changer even that effect gets diluted.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #18 on:** 14 May 2005, 18:41 »

And that beats portability, better quality, increased durability, lossless transfer, multimedia bonuses, the ability to back-up and transfer data easily and everything else the CD has going for it?

And the second reason seems a bit spurious. More like a personal taste thing, really.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #19 on:** 14 May 2005, 18:47 »

I guess it is a personal taste thing, but so's pretty much everything else about music really. I just know that listening to 'Lift Your...' sounds much less amazing to my ears when I've heard the two CDs back-to-back in a changer than when I've played the vinyl. The format inevitably effects the listening experience, since all art's context-dependent.

I'm not much of an audiophile so things like the quality don't bother me unless they're really bad. I wouldn't say either format was better, just different, and I prefer one or the other depending on what I'm listening to. And as for portability, I just whack my vinyl on a tape and stick it in my trusty walkman. Problem solved!

David · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 May 2005, 19:08 »

I'll assume you meant "Lift Your Skinny Fists..."

That record is my number one reason for wanting a record player.

I do buy some vinyl's though, if I see some I like. My last trip to Value Village I found a Roxy Music album, a Huey Lewis and the News album, and a Loverboy album. The last two I intend to give away as birthday gifts. Previous good finds were Elvis Costello, Madness, Bob Mould (!), Dead Kennedys, the Minutemen, and a bootleg of a Misfits show.

Anybody have a record player they want to sell for cheap?

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #21 on:** 14 May 2005, 19:14 »

Why the hell do I always think it's 'wrists'? I've had that album for years now and I'm still doing it. My friend actually bought it even though he doesn't actually like it much purely because the artwork is that good.

David · « **Reply #22 on:** 14 May 2005, 20:28 »

I sometimes make that mistake myself. I just barely caught yours, and it's not a huge deal anyway. I really need to buy that album though. Whenever I go to the only store here that carries it, it's just standing there, mocking me and my empty bank account.

Please, tell me your username is from that song by Black Eyes. That would make my night.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #23 on:** 14 May 2005, 20:47 »

Consider it made!

El Opium · « **Reply #24 on:** 14 May 2005, 21:57 »

Found Violent Femmes S/T album on vinyl at goodwill last week.
Godspeeds first record F#A# Is pretty different on vinyl. It only has two tracks and uses a different mix for each but to me they make more sense to me ahd there's a locked groove on the end of side 2.
Double albums with one 20 minute track on each side generally tend to rule.

Super Dave · « **Reply #25 on:** 14 May 2005, 22:05 »

My dad has a shatload of lp's in our basement, >2000, and I found not 1, not 2, but 3 copies of Sgt. Peppers, all of which STILL HAVE THE MOUSTACHES IN THEM.

Johnny c knows of what I speak.

David · « **Reply #26 on:** 15 May 2005, 03:28 »

Man. Black Eyes. My night was so made from that. Also, Violent Femmes is indeed a good freaking find. Luckyyyyy!

blindsuperhero · « **Reply #27 on:** 15 May 2005, 03:39 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

better quality

Now that's debateable. CD quality really isn't all that great.

Signum_Tenebrae · « **Reply #28 on:** 15 May 2005, 05:08 »

Quote from: blindsuperhero

Quote from: KharBevNor
better quality

Now that's debateable. CD quality really isn't all that great.

Better than vinyl.

Signum_Tenebrae · « **Reply #29 on:** 15 May 2005, 05:11 »

As for the topic. . I don't buy vinyl mainly because I'm lazy and I'm not really a "collector" (yet) Too poor.

here's something to think about next time you think you're kvlt though.

I have a friend who has a Mütiilation vinyl of Vampires of Black Imperial Blood... Limited to 66 copies... Hand numbered... And smeared in Meyna'ch's blood

blindsuperhero · « **Reply #30 on:** 15 May 2005, 05:41 »

Quote from: Signum_Tenebrae

Better than vinyl.

Not necessarily. It's hard to argue which is better, as they're different. The problem is, most CDs are in better condition than most records, so most CDs are closer to acheiving their maximum sound-quality potential. But if you had a record in impeccable quality, compared to a CDs in impeccable quality, the results would be different, but, depending on what you're playing, in some cases the vinyl would sound better and in some cases the CD would sound better.

sketchyjoe · « **Reply #31 on:** 15 May 2005, 06:01 »

I have an old punk comp from about 1977 on vinyl.

Kai · « **Reply #32 on:** 15 May 2005, 09:00 »

I have an original pressing of the Residents' Meet the Residents. wewt. Also a shitload of Zappa records and a bunch others I swiped from my dad.

Freezey · « **Reply #33 on:** 15 May 2005, 19:52 »

I find some songs sound better on vinyl than cd; though it isn't always the case. For instance, I find three-chord punk rock sounds a lot better on vinyl than cd. Case in point: comparing "Fun Tonight" by the Riverdales. I found the 7" for three bucks at the used record store, and that was the first time I heard the song. It had this grittiness to it, which was because of the vinyl. About six months later I got the Riverdales' S/T album on CD, and "Fun Tonight" suddenly didn't sound right. It was missing that grit, that rawness.

...uh, yeah.

Schmendrick · « **Reply #34 on:** 17 May 2005, 17:05 »

It makes me happy that some bands are putting out vinyl now like The Unicorns. I found Bleach by Nirvana on vinyl for only $16 which is pretty decent in my opinion especially since I'm a huge fan of vinyl.

lb969 · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 May 2005, 18:04 »

Good Vinyl?

Cleaning up my grandmothers I found a few Elvis, and a old Edison platter, the ones that are like 1/2 inch thick.

Vinyl is OK, but i don't hold a candle to 5.1(or better) CD quality.

However the oldies (pre Rock) are better on Vinyl.

jeremy · « **Reply #36 on:** 17 May 2005, 18:51 »

Not to be a dick, but there's no such thing as an "Edison platter." I think you're probably thinking of an old 78 rpm disc. Those were very thick, 10" in diameter, and generally contained foxtrots (heh). Edison's original machine (looks like this) played Edison cylinders, but those are really tough to find. Before his death, my grandfather (who lived to be 90, to give you an idea of the age of the technology) talked about giving me a collection of cylinders that had belonged to his parents during his childhood, but I never did see them. Hopefully they ended up somewhere safe, as they're notoriously fragile and were never really designed to last very long anyway.

Oh, and just to make this post at least a little bit on topic, one of my favorite records was given to me by my grandmother some years ago after she somehow found out that I collect records. It's a demonstration record that was given away by Traveller's Insurance Group to visitors of the 1964-1965 World's Fair. It's called "The Triumph of Man" and it's the funniest damned thing I've ever heard. Totally cold war propaganda couched in relentless optimism: "From there, the settlers and sodbusters pressed forwarrd, relentlessly pushing the borders of American expansion to new frontiers..." (no mention of those pesky indians, of course!) And the ending alluding to the "exciting new frontiers" of space exploration is really great, too. The back cover of the record sleeve has a really cheesy painting of an astronaut's face floating about in the vacuum of space. Hahaha. He looks like Wilfred Brimley, the infamous oatmeal/insurance spokesperson.

Johnny C · « **Reply #37 on:** 17 May 2005, 18:58 »

Mayhap it's a nickname?

Anyhow, I didn't know Edison invented planned obsolesence, too.

lb969 · « **Reply #38 on:** 17 May 2005, 19:35 »

Edison Platter: Slang for a '78 manufactured by the Edison Co. Not common outside Ny/MA/PA/NJ where these things are easy to find (as they were made in NJ)

Most of the records I found were WWII era, to 1970.

El Opium · « **Reply #39 on:** 17 May 2005, 21:18 »

I saw one of those Edison platters lying around in a junk mall here in IA. It was indeed wonderously heavy and thick. It was dated 1923.

blindsuperhero · « **Reply #40 on:** 18 May 2005, 09:32 »

Quote from: lb969

Vinyl is OK, but i don't hold a candle to 5.1(or better) CD quality.

There's no such thing (as far as I know) as 5.1 CDs, I think you're thinking of DVD-Audio, which is the greatest format ever.

MilkmanDan · « **Reply #41 on:** 18 May 2005, 10:30 »

Vinyl has a distinct advantage over CDs. If you push a CD back and forth at high speed while it plays, you will break the CD or CD player. You push a record and you get awesome. Assuming you have the right cartidges. I in no way condone trying to scratch with a regular HiFi turntable and cartridge, you will rip holes in your record.

mee-kay-la · « **Reply #42 on:** 18 May 2005, 10:37 »

I love buying used records. There's a fair chance that you'll either get pure, scratched-up crap when you try playing it, and there's also a fair chance that you'll get good music for very little money.... I'm an album art whore, so if a record ends up playing like crap, I just hang up the cover on my wall.

lb969 · « **Reply #43 on:** 18 May 2005, 11:23 »

5.1 sound system, rated for CD quality.

Meaning very low thresholds for background noise, and tight equiliser control.

Im a music geek/audiophile

Sorry the slags confusing, will try to knock it off.

blindsuperhero · « **Reply #44 on:** 18 May 2005, 11:50 »

Interesting, I've never heard of 5.1 CDs before. DVD-A still rocks my world though

lb969 · « **Reply #45 on:** 18 May 2005, 11:54 »

CD are 5 channel (sound) IIRC. Burn it yourself and you can get 7.1....

its all in the equilization....

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Beano

honest_that_way

Beano

catflea

blindsuperhero

honest_that_way

El Opium

LoveandaMolotovCocktail

Revenge_Therapist

blindsuperhero

David

David

El Opium

Super Dave

David

blindsuperhero

Signum_Tenebrae

Signum_Tenebrae

blindsuperhero

Freezey

Schmendrick

lb969

jeremy

lb969

El Opium

blindsuperhero

MilkmanDan

mee-kay-la

lb969

blindsuperhero

lb969