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WCDT strips 4306-4310 (13-17 July 2020)
Cornelius:
Or, as we have here, some times, treatment XYZ for condition ABC, that affects only one in ten million, is unproven, and so you'll need to pay it entirely by yourself, if you decide to go where they offer it. (Spoiler: more often than not, these campaigns, that do get the funding together, follow up some months later, to say that treatment was not, after all, effective, and in some cases, did more harm than good.)
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: Theta9 on 12 Jul 2020, 18:28 ---Sven is not a mooch.
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I knew I forgot something.
Zebediah:
Let me tell you a little bit about bureaucrats in the US health care system.
The morning of my son’s heart surgery, while he was being prepped for surgery, we got a call from our insurance company stating that they would not be paying for it, despite having previously approved it. Their stated reasons were that 1. this didn’t require inpatient surgery, but could be handled by an outpatient facility, and 2. my son was too old to be treated at the children’s hospital anyway.
He was 3, and was getting heart surgery, which requires a minimum of 24 hours in an ICU and 72 hours observation after surgery. Insurance wanted it done in an outpatient facility for adults with no post-op hospitalization.
One profanity-laced phone call from the surgeon to the insurance company cleared it up, but he had to take a break from preparing for the surgery to deal with it. He told us afterwards that insurance companies tried to pull this shit all the time, just to see if they could get away with it.
And this is why I want for-profit insurance companies out of the decision-making loop.
(My son is fine now, by the way. Surgery was 100% successful and he has very few restrictions on physical activity. Basically he’s not allowed to play football, which he doesn’t want to do anyway.)
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 12 Jul 2020, 17:49 ---
--- Quote from: the silent firefly on 12 Jul 2020, 14:18 ---a combination of: "yeah, like that is going to happen" and "great, so then i can be stuck with this shitty body forever and wait 6 months at a time for bureaucrats to decide when i can get a ounce of new lubricant"
a comprehensive AI socialized "medicine" system could be a dream come true or a nightmare.
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What social care system anywhere has bureaucrats involved in treatment decisions? Because it sounds a lot like the made up one that was used as a strawman by the naysayers when the affordable care act was being discussed.
Also, I’m not certain “waiting for someone to say I can have something” is actually worse than “never getting anything unless someone gives it to me” – in fact they’re semantically identical; just the implied reason for the third party to fund treatment is different.
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Much like education, bureaucrats should be kept far far away from any decision making in how it runs. They should only be allowed to pass the budget. And said budget should be unfettered and free of dogears and riders. [And in my own personal opinion, any politicians attempting to affix such things to said budget bills should automatically lose their seat of office.]
Tova:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 13 Jul 2020, 05:27 ---Let me tell you a little bit about bureaucrats in the US health care system.
The morning of my son’s heart surgery, while he was being prepped for surgery, we got a call from our insurance company stating that they would not be paying for it, despite having previously approved it. Their stated reasons were that 1. this didn’t require inpatient surgery, but could be handled by an outpatient facility, and 2. my son was too old to be treated at the children’s hospital anyway.
He was 3, and was getting heart surgery, which requires a minimum of 24 hours in an ICU and 72 hours observation after surgery. Insurance wanted it done in an outpatient facility for adults with no post-op hospitalization.
One profanity-laced phone call from the surgeon to the insurance company cleared it up, but he had to take a break from preparing for the surgery to deal with it. He told us afterwards that insurance companies tried to pull this shit all the time, just to see if they could get away with it.
And this is why I want for-profit insurance companies out of the decision-making loop.
(My son is fine now, by the way. Surgery was 100% successful and he has very few restrictions on physical activity. Basically he’s not allowed to play football, which he doesn’t want to do anyway.)
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Let me just say that I am very glad that your son is fine. And that my mental reaction to the story leading up to that bit was also quite profanity-laced. There's probably no point in saying any more than that.
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