Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 4451-4455 (the 1st through 5th of February, 2021)
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Morituri on 07 Feb 2021, 15:34 ---
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 05 Feb 2021, 18:10 ---The underlying point of the whole video is that science doesn't deal in absolutes (except for absolute zero), that blind unquestioning faith in science causes people to act unscientifically.
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The first principle of science is to refuse to accede to blind unquestioning faith. If something affects your life, or if you care about it, test it in every conceivable way to see whether you're being lied to. Or whether the people telling you are just wrong. Or if the authoritative sources on the matter for the prior six hundred years have *ALL* been wrong.
[snip]
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[dry sarcasm]Congratulations.
[flatly and sincerely] That's the one of the first points brought up in the video I recommended you guys watch.
Mr_Rose:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 07 Feb 2021, 17:06 ---
--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 07 Feb 2021, 01:08 ---Yes, axioms are arbitrarily defined as true within a given paradigm; that is just for that paradigm though.
The cellular biology paradigm assumes MRS GREN holds true for all life but we know there are life forms where that s not 100% true 100% of the time (virii for a start) so we need to define a new paradigm.
Choosing a particular set of axioms (your paradigm) to work with when addressing a particular topic is a matter of convenience and convention, not faith, and changing the paradigm if the current one proves insufficient is the expected outcome, not heresy.
Now, what was your actual point, please? Because I’m genuinely not sure and no, saying “watch the video” again is not communicating that.
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'Faith' as in 'I accept this as it's presented', not as in 'religious faith'.
Perhaps you guys have too much baggage shackled to the word 'faith'?
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That’s just it; the whole point is to question what is presented. Perhaps you’re reading too much into people not understanding your unclear and contradictory presentation?
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Morituri on 07 Feb 2021, 15:34 ---
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 05 Feb 2021, 18:10 ---The underlying point of the whole video is that science doesn't deal in absolutes (except for absolute zero), that blind unquestioning faith in science causes people to act unscientifically.
--- End quote ---
The first principle of science is to refuse to accede to blind unquestioning faith. If something affects your life, or if you care about it, test it in every conceivable way to see whether you're being lied to. Or whether the people telling you are just wrong. Or if the authoritative sources on the matter for the prior six hundred years have *ALL* been wrong.
[snip]
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[dry sarcasm]Congratulations.
[flatly and sincerely] That's the one of the first points brought up in the video I recommended you guys watch.
[This time I'm being an ass about it.]
Tova:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 08 Feb 2021, 17:17 ---[This time I'm being an ass about it.]
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Congratulations.
Morituri:
Sorry, it's just a
very
very
old
annoying
USELESS
argument.
I don't want anyone talking about "science accepted on blind faith" or "science is just another religion" in any venue that's supposed to remain civil.
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