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a pack of wolves:

--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---OmG ShAdoWs FalL RnT Met0L P0sEr

or something.

Metalcore's such a joke. Just some hardcore bands who suddenly said "Let's all jump on the Gothenburg bandwagon!" The only decent one is The Black Dahlia Murder, and only because they retained almost nothing of their origins and just became a decent MDM band.
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The thing that really pisses me off about those haircut bands is that they won't own up and admit they're just naff metal bands, which means that when you tell someone you like metalcore they think you mean Poison The sodding Well or Shadows Fall. And then you have to beat them to death with Stalingrad records. It's a real chore.

KharBevNor:
But Stalingrad are hardcore, at least If we're thinking of the same Stalingrad. It's normally best to stick with what the rest of the human race thinks a genres is. Just as a general point.

a pack of wolves:
Yeah, but it gets difficult when the rest of the human race can't agree. When most people I know talk about metalcore they mean Stand, Integrity, Converge etc. And a lot of Stalingrad's stuff gets fairly metal, Nation Upon Nation for example (oh yeah, this is the Stalingrad from Bradford whose singer went on to be in The Devils). Sometimes it just makes it rather hard to describe things, emo's become useless for that these days since no-one can tell what the hell you mean anymore and screamo seems to be going the same way.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves --- Stalingrad from Bradford whose singer went on to be in The Devils
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Thought so. Not what I'd call metalcore, but then I'm really crap at the Xcore family of genres. But me back in the happy world of Scandinavian metal any day.

LightThievesAll:
I don't think metalcore is even a real genre.  I avoid it like the plague.  Now, crossover is a different story.  DRI, Cro-Mags, S.O.D. that's what I'm talking about.  If you want the ultimate "metalcore" band, it's Slayer, cos those guys wouldn't kick nearly as much ass as they do if they weren't punks.  Punk and metal meet at thrash and at grind, that's how I see it.  I could go on much longer about how much the abortion that is metalcore upsets me, but I'll refrain.

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