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a pack of wolves:
You seem to have put 'kick' where you must surely have meant 'suck'. Christian metal? No thanks.

ASturge:
think im going to have to go with Pack O' Wolves on this one...

although kikanjuuneko has the right to his own opinion.

*is a mofoing hypocrite

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: kikanjuuneko ---
Oh, I don't know, Botch, Coalesce, Deadguy, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Norma Jean, Unbroken, Converge, Poison the Well, Hatebreed (and every other band that sounds like them) and, uh, Drowningman? That enough for you, Khar? Hardly your parents' hardcore (as 7 Seconds would put it), but hardly Gothenburg-sounding either.
--- End quote ---


They're all hardcore or mathcore by my estimation. I mean, I can't even see how you work metal influence into DEP.

And my parents listened to real punk. :p

(Thank you, father, for the Stiff Little Fingers records. Thank you, mother, for the Siouxsie and the Banshees songs you used to, somewhat disturbingly, sing me as a baby)

kikanjuuneko:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves ---Christian metal? No thanks.
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Oh my, not this debate again.

Khar, that's the thing, they aren't just hardcore bands. American Nightmare is* a hardcore band. 7 Seconds is a hardcore band. Minor Threat, Champion, Poison Idea, Killing the Dream, Modern Life is War, all hardcore bands. Notice the similarity?

Of course, that's assuming you're going to bother listening to any of these bands, but my point is that hardcore, for good and bad has a set sound, and the other bands I mentioned, while keeping some basic ideas and attitude the same, sound nothing alike. Also, just because a band plays math every now and then doesn't mean that math is the primary defining characteristic of their sound. That's why I think they're metalcore.

* Well, they were until they got sued and had to change their name and then unceremoniously broke up merely days before I was supposed to see them at the Hultsfred festival. Goddammit.

a pack of wolves:
To be honest, it's the music thing which bothers me about Norma Jean. The christianity and daft hair are just easy sticks to beat them with.

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