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jus:
I was reading some comments made in another thread here: http://forums.questionablecontent.net/viewtopic.php?t=5007
Topic was musicians you hate:
--- Quote from: dannyboy ---Oh man... I can't believe I forgot to mention that! I don't get rap or most hip hop either. I just can't listen to people talking about ho's, forties, killing, bling, etc. I just don't get it.
--- End quote ---
I know this should be in the thread I referenced, but I wanted to list recommendations for the whole board's enjoyment (or ire as the case may be)
Defending hip hop on a predominantly indie messageboard = futile; but futility is my specialty!
I've lived in six countries and spent long periods in many others, my friends are either hardcore into rock, electronic, or rap, so I'm used to hearing intelligent people knock a genre, only to meet up with another group of intelligent people who love it, and knock the preference of the first group and so on and so forth.
People who point at 3 Doors Down, Creed, and Nickleback and say rock is trite, or look at Dashboard and conclude that "emotional" music has to be whiny shouldn't point at 50 Cent and Eminem and conclude that rap is shite...
Real hip hop is about soul, struggle, can be about funk, which is something you feel before you think out.
I listen to rap at least as much as I listen to indie, and I understand the merits of the genre:
I doubt I'll change anyone who's set in their way's opinion of a subjective topic, but here are some recommendations (fairly catchy one's too)
Black Star: Thieves in the Night, Respiration, K.O.S (Determination, knowledge of self) = all three are songs of liberation, positive thought and change
Blackalicious: Make You Feel That Way (about that tingly feeling when you pick up an old friend at the airport, see your son up to bat at a little league game, fall in love, hear a song that makes you tap your feet)
Talib Kweli: For Women (remake of a Nina Simeone (sp?) song), Stand to the Side (about free speech), Good Mourning (about living life without remorse), Love Language & Won't You Stay (intelligent love songs)
Mos Def: Climb (ludicrously atmospheric, about losing hope), Hip Hop (about the genre's merits, how it can make you rich, but can't save your soul), Fear Not of Man (a song about Islam)
The Roots: Act Too, You Got Me, Dynamite (this last one isn't contemplative at all, but the piano lines make even the least funky tap their feet in appreciation if not bust out dancin')
I think most of my recommendations were accesible. I hope someone out there can appreciate them.
Disclaimer: I'm hardly an authority on Hip Hop, I just enjoy it.
Robbo:
It's the same thing as Rock or whatever. What you see on MTV isn't the real stuff and is pure crap.
Krunk Rap or whatever it is, 50 Cent and all that stuff is rubbish. It's becoming slightly well know fact at least.
Some people will still never like the "good stuff" but should at least be judging that and not MTV based crap.
ASturge:
Jurrasic 5
happybirthdaygelatin:
Hell yeah, J-5. Also I am relieved that this wasn't another rap sucks thread.
Yo, because of passing the course wife asking divorce
Taking half of your cash, now you bask in remorse
Turning rap into sport, I've mastered the part
Cause the trash on the chart leave you gaspin for art
Now if you've mastered the art, I'm askin with force
To mass of your thoughts, to your ass is a corpse
Cover grass in a burst, unfasten your purse
Give your cash to the clerk, 5 Jurass finish first
and
You need to watch what you choose, what you give is what you get
Some are lacking intellect in their quest for a check
Is it love or respect, does the subject get you vexed?
Only 4 bars to wreck, the situation is complex
See also: Del The Funky Homosapien [see also: Deltron, Hieroglyphics{sp?}], Atmosphere, Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Kool Keith (see also: Dr. Doom, Dr. Octogon), Aesob Rock. Erm, Lyrics Born and The Gift of Gab from Blackalicious are also good.
Trinary:
As a huge hiphop fan and amatuer DJ, I'm glad this thread exists. I am, however, afraid that it will turn into "Rap more like cRap am I right?", so please, try to keep it constructive.
Recommendations, just browsing though my current playlist: Aesop Rock, Hieroglyphics, Eyedea & Abilities, Atmosphere, The Pharcyde, Common Sense, De la Soul, EPMD, Eric B&Rakim, KRS-One (BDP, etc), Grandmaster Flash, Tribe called Quest, Handsome Boy Modeling School, Saul Williams, Sage Francis, Sole, Dose One, Buck65, RJD2...I could keep going, I guess.
There's so so so much great stuff coming out in the last couple years that actually has something constructive or interesting to say and a good way to say it. And there's an absolutely vast catalog of underappreciated tracks from the "old school" that are still relevant and enjoyable today.
I love hiphop. LOVE it.
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