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jus:
I know why a lot of people think rap is crap. Like Robbo pointed out, as with any genre, you sort of have to scratch the surface to find real gems; but if you don't have an interest in the genre, why should you bother to delve further into it? I suppose you wouldn't, and you shouldn't have to, I agree.

So a lot broad sweeping generalizations are made about genres by people who don't know a whole lot about them.

I'm not trying to say people should have to give everything the benefit of the doubt... you'd die under the burden of buying 3 times as many albums, but I like sharing music, and you never know...

Oh... and like Asturge mentioned: J5 i is always nice, their most famous track "Quality Control" is a good one, and basically anything with Chali 2na on it kicks ass.

Also check out: Blackalicious ft. Ben Harper: Brain Washers, and Chemical Calisthenics (tripped out relation of the periodic table, mixed by J5's Cut Chemist)... listen to those two songs back to back :) And yeah, anything from the Native Tongues movement is usually good.

some lyrics:

The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse
Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts
Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
The length of black life is treated with short worth
Get yours first, them other n*ggaz secondary
That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetary
This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you
Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not live, we just excitin
Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin
Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave
But everyday, next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
I'm tryin to live life in the sight of God's memory
Like that y'all

Mos Def, Thieves in the Night

daviesmatt:
Most rap I hear sucks, but some is just really good.

So thanks for the recommendations, I'll look into them.

Trinary:
Neat,  I haven't heard Chemical Calisthenics, but I love the track by Gift of Gab (of Blackalicious) and Cut Chemist called Alphabet Aerobics...every two lines feature alliteration from a single letter, going from a to z (first two lines a, second two b, and so on).  And the tempo constantly speeds up.  Fun, not particularly deep, but it's a fantastic demonstration of Gab's command of rhyme, cadence, and vocabulary.

jus:
I haven't heard Alphabet Aerobics, not sure what CD that's off at all actually, but sounds like you'd love Chemical Calisthenics, seems to be cut from similar cloth.

Gab spits faster and faster and faster until you can barely follow along, and Cut's work is especially stellar on this track IMO.

Skibas_clavicle:
Jus, I totally agree with you. There are some incrediblely great rap artists out there, Saul Williams is a really great on, as is El-P and Warsaw Pack. We almost must not forget our friends the Beastie Boys.  The people you mentioned are also really awesome. Good on yah, dude!

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