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explaining straightedge
Patatat:
--- Quote from: 24_hour_revenge_therapy ---
--- Quote from: Patatat ---You guys should meet the courage crew, they do just the opposite.
They give the scene round here a bad name.
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where are you from?
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Michigan...
24_hour_revenge_therapy:
--- Quote from: a pack of wolves ---Okay, so you stop beatings happening. But 'it's kind of subjective, and we do take it on a case by case basis'? No offence, but who made you guys the official scene police? And why not stop a fight if only two people are involved? It's still violence.
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well, i'm not sure how it is where you are, but unfortuanetly, the scene in pheonix is kinda crappy right now. lots of shitty venues, with shady owners, who REFUSE to hire security. who makes us the scene police? well, we do, because someone has to. as for stopping a one on one fight, well, we make them go outside and deal with it. but it's not really our problem. if two idiots want to pound each other senseless in the parking lot, let them. i'm gonna listen to the band.
24_hour_revenge_therapy:
--- Quote from: Patatat ---
--- Quote from: 24_hour_revenge_therapy ---
--- Quote from: Patatat ---You guys should meet the courage crew, they do just the opposite.
They give the scene round here a bad name.
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where are you from?
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Michigan...
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well, i grew up in cincinnati, the base of their power. and, yeah, they used to SUCK. i'm not sure what it's like in michigan, but in cincinnati, they've changed. a LOT. they've kicked out a lot of the kids that started unnecassary violence, and pulled the rest in on a tight reign. yeah, they've got a long way to go to fix things, but theyre trying.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: Ozymandias ---I don't even know what you people are talking about, but for some reason, I feel the need to punch a Mormon now.
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I get that all the time.
Straight edge is, y'know, respectable and all. But I'm kinda glad it hasn't really spread to riound where I live. I don't mind your original 'Don't Smoke, Don't Drink, Don't Fuck' crowd (though I only tick one X through choice, I don't smoke and never will), that's fine. Veganism I'm less keen on, especially militant veganism of the type put about by Earth Crisis and so forth (I'm a former Hunt Sab, but I firmly believe that even talking about placing the life of an animal over the life of a human is deeply, deeply wrong. It's un-natural, if nothing else) Some of the stuff I've heard about the SLC scene scares me fucking shitless.
Finally, I don't like straight-edge kids (and I think you'll agree there are quite a few) who take themselves way too seriously. For example: the kind of people who made Hot Topic withdraw one of the few decent shirts they ever printed "So You're Straight-edge? I'll drink to that!" or the ones who would choose to assume an air of superiority over me or indeed anyone who drinks, smokes, has promiscous sex etc. I can understand where you're coming from of course, but knock it off: I've made my choices, you've made yours, and I'm not stupid. I've never drunk so much I was sick, I've never done drugs, and on the rare instanced I do get lucky I always use protection. I'm not a weak person, thanks very much.
So, anyway, hi.
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: 24_hour_revenge_therapy ---
--- Quote from: a pack of wolves ---Okay, so you stop beatings happening. But 'it's kind of subjective, and we do take it on a case by case basis'? No offence, but who made you guys the official scene police? And why not stop a fight if only two people are involved? It's still violence.
--- End quote ---
well, i'm not sure how it is where you are, but unfortuanetly, the scene in pheonix is kinda crappy right now. lots of shitty venues, with shady owners, who REFUSE to hire security. who makes us the scene police? well, we do, because someone has to. as for stopping a one on one fight, well, we make them go outside and deal with it. but it's not really our problem. if two idiots want to pound each other senseless in the parking lot, let them. i'm gonna listen to the band.
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To quote those much-missed hardcore legends Fig 4.0: "Bouncers... Die!" They won't hire security? That's a good thing! It's a punk gig, not having bouncers is what you should want to happen! Your scene might be shitty, but that's no need to bring in hired muscle. The best thing to do is just make it a place where knucklehead macho types aren't welcome.
Where I am is great. Well at least it is for proper, DIY hardcore stuff. I think you get trouble at the big gigs when shit like Throwdown etc play, but that has nothing to do with my scene so I couldn't care less if some meatheads windmill each other. The few occasions something does happen it's normally dealt with by the crowd in a reasonably mature manner, without the need for some little group in particular to police things.
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