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explaining straightedge
jeph:
Straightedge is fucking retarded.
YAY I AM SO PROUD OF MYSELF BECAUSE I FOLLOW AN ABRITRARILY DETERMINED LIFESTYLE NOW LET ME BLATHER ON ABOUT IT FOR HOURS AT A TIME
Seriously. You don't drink or smoke or whatever? Cool, good for you. But the minute you come up with a catchphrase for your lifestyle I begin to lose respect.
24_hour_revenge_therapy:
well, i suppose theres some truth to that. in the end, you could say that what i do, not how i describe it is the important part. i agree with that. i don't call myself straightedge because i want to add a catchphrase. i do it simply to label myself. to let others know who i am. to add another phrase to the long list that describes who i am. i'm also irish. i'm jewish. i'm american and canadian. i like pie. i like morrisey, and the cure, and earthcrisis, and lots and lots and lots of other bands. my favorite flavor of ice cream is strawberry. i'm a humanist. my favorite authors are kurt vonnegut, and john steinbeck. my favorite comic book hero is superman. my favorite artist is jim mahfood. i like to get tattooed. i write. i like to take walks at three in the morning when the rest of the city is asleep. one time, on one of those walks, some guy thought i was a male prostitute, and tried to buy me. oh, and i'm straightedge. it's who i am, and at the same time, just a part of who i am.
LightThievesAll:
I think we can all agree on one thing: Slapshot is awesome, even if Choke is an asshole.
I'm not straight-edge, but I'm pretty surprised to see all the vitriol thrown in their direction. I have straight-edge friends, and they've never given me shit for lighting a cigarette or drinking a beer, but I guess that's just my experience. Jeez, around here, skinheads don't even get that much shit. Well, not from people who know the deal, anyway.
KharBevNor:
When I say the things I hear about SLC scare me shitless, I mean the stories one hears of someone who's passing through and makes the mistake of asking an sxe kid for a light and ends up getting beaten with tire chains. People have died in sxe related incidents around that way.
Why the unwillingness to discuss veganism openly? It would probably be simpler than lots of individual discussions.
For the record, I dislike veganism because it clashes with my personal belief system. I'm basically a non-practicing Pagan, and as such if I believe in anything it is the cycles and hierarchies of nature (good old mother earth). Feel your teeth: Those sharp incisors weren't made for chewing particularly tough Soy beans. Look at you stomach: those Protease enzymes aren't there to digest grass. Our bodies are designed to eat meat: to do otherwise is a denial of nature. This does not mean I'm a whole-hearted supporter of animal cruelty. Factory farming and a lot of slaughterhouse (and especially fur farming) methods are simply as un-natural, in my view. However, whilst this animal cruelty is tragic, I generally overlook it (Though I don't condone it. My family's cupboards are stocked with Free Range and Organic produce, and I don't think I've ever eaten anything from Spain as a protest against bull-fighting. These values have come down to me.) However, I believe it is wrong to concentrate on cruelty to animals when there is so much cruelty to humans. When all my fellow men and women are free from hunger, disease, war, oppression and intolerance, then I will start serious work on ending un-necessary animal cruelty. Until then, it is in my mind a sideline issue: victories against factory farmers, whalers or fox hunters to be taken wherever they can, but never lose sight of the humans dying needlessly every minute. No matter what your philosophies, animals cannot be equal to humans: the kinship one should feel for the other members of one's own species, the shared bond of common humanity, must come first, if we truly want to build a better society.
japaneasy:
In the end, it boils down to...
Animals = taste good
Vegetables = taste like dirt
Human intelligence (in general terms, there are many exceptions) > Animal intelligence
Therefore, it is the way of things that humans eat animals. If cows had evolved to be the predominant life form on Earth, and ate hoomans, the reverse would be true.
If I'm forced to take a buttload of vitamin pills and/or use other means to keep my body supplied with the materials it needs to survive, I am ignoring the benefits of millions of years of evolution.
My take on veganism:
I don't drink milk, I think it's nasty and just plain weird. Plus it smells funny.
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