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Matteh99:
--- Quote from: Addius ---If I'd ever buy a PPC I'd probably just install Gentoo on it anyway so I don't really se the point. A note on the "MACs don't have neither viruses nor spyware".. It isn't true. It is not widespread, nor does it have the same "hatred" towards it, but do I need to point to the safari-hole? The more people that switches to Apples alternative the more viruses will spread and malware infest.
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I know it is possible for a mac to get a virus or spyware. However I haven't seen one yet. Probably 90% of all PC's that I work on have some sort of virus and even more have spyware. It will probably happen on the mac to but right now it seems pretty safe.
Can you name one virus for any version of os x? Because I can't.. Ok there have been security holes and I am sure there will be more.. But an actuall in the wild virus, not that I can think of.
Eric
Matteh99:
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--- Quote from: Matteh99 ---Mac's don't really cost all that much more than PC's.. Just to see I just built a Dell with basicaly the same features as the middle model imac.
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I tested this out. The mid-leve iMac is a 2GHz processor, 512MB DDR RAM, 160GB HD, Radeon 9600. Cost in CDN moose money: $1849. A Dell 8400, which is nearly the top of the home PC line, with a P4 3.2 (the new one with 2MB cache), 1GB DDR2 RAM, 250GB HD, ATI Radeon X300. Amount of beavers require: $1968.
So, for $120 more, you get a significant boost in power. At least games would play nicely on the 8400.
So, I'll get back to my basic point. x86-based computers are generally cheaper and more powerful, but don't run OS X. Which, in my world, is not a problem. Windows XP is very stable for me, and hasn't crashed once in the past year, 18 months. Oh, yeah. The point. It's a personal choice thing.
Mebbe I'll install PearPC and give Tiger a go. :p
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Did you actually test the two or did you just look at the spec sheet? The spec's can lie either for or against. Mhz aren't everything and being able to process 64 bits does nothing unless you have an application written for it. For mac vs pc performance it really does seem to just be what application you are running. Apple can tweek their bench marks to make the mac look like it kicks ass and the other way around to.
nihilist:
I wasn't debating the speed of the core system; I'm sure they have their strengths and weaknesses. Video encoding on a P4 is awesome because Intel tweaked the CPU to be that way. I was making a point that you can generally get a bit more bang (more RAM, better video card) for roughly the same price. I could argue the whole OS thing, but that's really a personal preference. In fact, that's been my point all along. While Apple is still priced a bit on the high side, they're not outrageous like they used to be. Yes, Windows has more applications. Same with Linux. However, Linux can run under PPC, though not everything has been ported.
So, yeah. It's personal. Some people like the 'trend' associated with Apple. Me, I don't. That's pretty much that.
Matteh99:
--- Quote from: nihilist ---I'm trying to decide if I want to buy a Mac Mini, or one of the knockoffs. Mac Mini is cheaper, which is odd. But it's mini. And I'd just put Gentoo on it anyway. :)
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I don't quite get why you would put linux on a Mac. You can compile most open source applications for the mac if you really want to.. The Unix part is already there, x11 is there. You can buy a bare bones PC with no os for alot cheaper than a mac. It seems silly to throw out all that software which you paid for...
Some one said there arn't as many software programs for the mac. Which is true but for most people the mac will do every thing a PC will. If you want bad software support try linux.. There is software out there but both mac and windows are easier..
Eric
Matteh99:
--- Quote from: nihilist ---So, yeah. It's personal. Some people like the 'trend' associated with Apple. Me, I don't. That's pretty much that.
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Yeah in the end it is personal preference. I have said the same thing in previous posts. However, most people are idiots (both mac and PC users) when it comes to computers and I think mac's are more idiot proof.
Last week I got ~150 emails because some idiot(s) at the school i work at (not the computer store) opened an attachment and got a virus and it sent a ton of emails. Sober.somthing.
I don't really like being part of the apple trend either.. But I would rather run a mac than a windows machine.
Eric
PS.
I posted this link a while back but I think it also fits in now and incase any one hasn't read it.. http://www.macsupportpro.com/~eric/mini/. It is a test between a mac mini and a dell dimension 3000.
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