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nihilist:
Let the fun begin!
--- Quote from: Matteh99 ---If you want bad software support try linux..
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Oooh, that's a scary thing to say. I find that unless you have a crazy specific problem with open source software, there is support to be found everywhere. FOSS is very community driven, and people generally try to help out. I also like it because software that is free runs under both Linux and Windows. For me, it doesn't get any better.
--- Quote from: Matteh99 ---Last week I got ~150 emails because some idiot(s) at the school i work at (not the computer store) opened an attachment and got a virus and it sent a ton of emails. Sober.somthing.
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That's not a problem with the OS itself. That's just a problem. Yes, that crap targets Windows-based PCs more, but it's like the whole gaming argument: it deals with market share. Target the popular systems. Besides, if you have a proper e-mail client, a proper mail server setup that filters that crap out, etc, etc, it wouldn't have happened. So stop blaming the OS. :)
--- Quote from: Matteh99 ---I posted this link a while back but I think it also fits in now and incase any one hasn't read it.. http://www.macsupportpro.com/~eric/mini/. It is a test between a mac mini and a dell dimension 3000.
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Yeah, but that's a Mac person's view. You can get a Dell 3000 with a P4 processor for the exact same price. A P4 is far superior to a Celeron. So why test with a Celeron if not to favour the Mac? Tsk tsk. Besides, it's an apples-to-oranges thing. P4 has far greater CPU speed for a reason; it was designed to scale high, but doesn't perform well at lower speeds. Celerons are for people who just don't know. If you want to do things on a clock speed basis, I'd love to see a comparison between an AMD 4000+ (2.4GHz) and a G5 2.4GHz. Hell, throw in a Pentium M 2.4Ghz in there as well. Be a very interesting benchmark.
mosfet:
I find sooo much worse software for windows than Linux.
Here you go: http://fink.sourceforge.net/
Use that and Fink-Commander to download a bunch of linux stuff to osx. Like I said, its BSD based, but that combined with fink and X11 lets you do some cool stuff.
It doesn't quite do what I want as RedHat would do, but I'm trying to make it so I can SSH into the mac and use it remotely. Like open a web browser and forward the GUI vis X11 forwarding. or other X11 apps. The goal here is forward X11. I could use VNC, but thats always slower.
-sam:
--- Quote from: nihilist ---I tested this out. The mid-leve iMac is a 2GHz processor, 512MB DDR RAM, 160GB HD, Radeon 9600. Cost in CDN moose money: $1849. A Dell 8400, which is nearly the top of the home PC line, with a P4 3.2 (the new one with 2MB cache), 1GB DDR2 RAM, 250GB HD, ATI Radeon X300. Amount of beavers require: $1968.
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You're forgetting something very important in your price calculations. The iMac comes with iLife '05 (iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, GarageBand) preinstalled. How much would it cost to purchase all that software for a Windows machine? Apple provides the total package my friend, the total package.
Spec-wise, Apple's not very price competative in the mid-range desktop market, but at the high end with the PowerMac, and all throughout their portable line they provide tremendous value.
--- Quote from: nihilist ---Apple needs to do a few things to make their computers more popular: lower the price, open up the code in certain places, change their target audience from the hipster crowd.
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Apple's target market has never been hipsters. That's the way it's shaken out, but Job's vision has always been far more egalitarian than that. The consumer end of the Apple product line is geared for people who want a computer "That Just Works(tm)." That lets people do a little bit of photo editing, a little bit of video editing, a little bit of sound editing. Apple has taken these fantastically powerful tools and taken them out of the hands of professionals and given them to everyone.
--- Quote from: nihilist ---That's not a problem with the OS itself. That's just a problem. Yes, that crap targets Windows-based PCs more, but it's like the whole gaming argument: it deals with market share
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It's not all security through obscurity. OS X handles things in a more sane way than Windows. There's no registry to speak of, if I'm installing an app that's going to affect the system I have to type in my admin password, even if I'm logged in as an admin of the machine. It's all that *nixy goodness.
mosfet:
Theres no registry, but there is a whole crap load of xml based files! :P
Gotta love the simplicity of the OSX interface layed over the *nix security! The moment we can afford it, I'm replacing my kid's PC with a Mac. That thing is an admin nightmare. I've pretty much locked the comp to keep her from breaking it... again... but now I have to go in there every other day to help her with this or that involving the crappy windows security settings.
McTaggart:
If it can run Photoshop, it's a good computer.
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