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Hatebunny:
Excuse my rashness and obvious predisposition to argue in favour of one of the things that's kept me sane over the years.

Seems a lot of you are predisposed to dislike nine inch nails anyway, so...what you thought of the new album isn't really going to differ greatly from your general opinion of him.

Meanwhile, a few posts up, someone comments on how overrated and dull Nine inch nails is, (apparently). Might I suggest that you've never felt the types of feelings expressed by the words and music? That is not to say that you've never felt low, or angry, but there is a rather diverse array of feelings, and it's likely that many people who don't identify with Trent Reznor's feelings won't idnentify with/enjoy the music...barring flukes who just like the music, Or just don't like the music, regardless of feelings.

edit: Trent Reznor professes to making neither industrial music, nor metal.
While industrial music is often completely different from Reznor's approach, there are branches of industrial music, like EBM, IDM, etc which he doesn't touch upon at all. If anything, Nine inch nails is a combination of those early industrial dance roots, and metal. However, I would venture to say that Nine Inch Nails is genre unto itself, much like Primus, Einsturzende Neubauten, or Sigur Ros. They are unlike anything else, yet they obviously draw on roots of other genres in order to make what they make. So, to claim that NiN is the shittiest of industrial music, is like unto proclaiming that Bach was a horrible Bluegrass Musician.

The new Album is Nine inch Nails, not Industrial, and if you don't like nine inch nails whether it be for petty reasons, or good reasons, there is a great unlikelihood that you will dislike With_Teeth. That isn't to say that if you don't like nine inch nails, you have no right to comment, but it makes sense that you should explain why you dislike the music itself, not why you think the band is overrated.

(also, leave it to people who don't like a band to pretend that they know what's going on in the artist's personal life better than a devoted fanatic.)

Donut:
I thoroughly enjoy it.  IMO, it's not his best work, but it's becoming one of my favorites.


I would write more, but I don't really see the point, since many here just don't care for my tastes in music.  And Hatebunny said mostly the same type of stuff that I was thinking.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: Hatebunny ---
Meanwhile, a few posts up, someone comments on how overrated and dull Nine inch nails is, (apparently). Might I suggest that you've never felt the types of feelings expressed by the words and music? That is not to say that you've never felt low, or angry, but there is a rather diverse array of feelings, and it's likely that many people who don't identify with Trent Reznor's feelings won't idnentify with/enjoy the music...barring flukes who just like the music, Or just don't like the music, regardless of feelings.

--- End quote ---


If I believe it is dull because I cannot identify with the emotions then the fault lies in the pedestrian, dull nature of the music itself rather than with me.

For example, I am not transgendered, but I can still identify with Sopor Aeternus and the Ensemble of Shadows. I have never lost a lover, but I can still identify with My Dying Bride. I have never seriously considered suicide, but I can still identify with Abyssic Hate. These are examples of artists that are successful at communicating alien concepts through the sheer, raw, vivid power of music and the human voice, rather than artists who produce plodding, audience-friendly music tailored to the emotional traumas of teenagers who draw tears on their cheeks with their liquid eyeliner.

Johnny C:
Don't forget, the teenagers also wear black because it's the colour of their souls!

Empty Friend:
I hope you're not suggesting what I think you are... because judging a band or musician based off of what a decent chunk of the fans are like is about as stupid as judging the merits of the music itself based off the way the musician looks.

I kinda miss the days when it was ok to like something because of the way it sounded, not because of it's relation to other musicians' bodies of work... especially when the other musicians have not much to do with the subject at hand.

Also, as anal as Trent Reznor is about the way his stuff sounds, I hardly think it's fair to say he went to the studio with the idea in mind to produce anything "audience friendly."  The guy has an absolute hardon for making the music be absolutely his, and yeah sometimes that hurts it due to lack of influence from those around him, but come on...  You're basically faulting him for doing it the way he likes and saying he's doing it to suck off his fanbase and not to make it his way.  

I'm not saying you have to like it, but jesus.

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