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MilkmanDan:
99% of lyrics suck. I can't count the number of times I've heard a perfectly good song ruined by some crap singing. With very few exceptions (ignoring rapping in Hip-Hop / short samples) I can't stand non-instrumental music. Radiohead, The Eels, Portishead, John Butler, At the drive-in. That's about it.
I'm not a fan of singers.

Kanno:

--- Quote from: Robbo ---Bad songwriters...you mean writing bad words or writing bad music?
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Bad words.  Like MilkmanDan said, 99% of lyrics suck.


--- Quote from: Robbo ---If I'm listening to Neo-Classical Shred (note the very niche example) stuff, I dont care if the guy is singing about dragons or his wedding, I want the solos.
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Yeah, ok, but what if the guy was singing about something so powerful that it changed your life?  That would make the song better.


--- Quote from: Robbo ---Take the music away and all you have is words.
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Yeah, and you have poetry.  Is poetry worse than music?  It's just a different medium of art, you can still accomplish the same things with it.

Robbo:
Singing about something powerful it changed my life? If you can have your life changed by a song, go you or something. But music isnt going to change my life and I wouldn't like myself if it did. Listening to Goregrind hasn't made me vegan. Listening to NS Black Metal hasn't made me a Neo-Nazi. It certainly wouldn't make the music better to me.

Poetry yes...but most of it would be complete shite. As it wouldn't written to be poetry. Some bands do write poetry for lyrics but not many.

Druid:
Adding vocals to music were just about getting people's attention. It's an exploitation of an odd quirk where humans automatically focus on the human voice. It doesn't matter what it's saying we will focus on it.

The way I look at music from an painter's pespective. The instuments provide color while the lyrics provide the shapes. That said I still look at lyrics as something abstract that should be open to interpretation.

I think where to start depends on a person's background. I liked Mogwai the first time I heard them, but they fit into what I already liked before hand.

Robbo:
I have mixed views on the whole "open to interpretation"...some songs are, because they're about just random or abstract things. But some aren't. Mostly when the artist has stated what they mean, and if they have, that's what the words mean, not whatever you might want to think.

And sometimes, that song about killing dragons is just about killing dragons. No struggle against life and power or anything, just some DnD nerds singing about dragonslaying.

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