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Jude:
I like them lots.

Yay for straightforward opinions :)

boeuf:
There was an incident with one of my friends...
but that was just once.

I know Amanda (thats her name right?) must have had her reasons, but like I said, I don't know her, so there for that is unknown to me. The matter of the fact is that I don't find cutting to be a good thing, so I don't agree with the lyrics.

Period.

It's like my liking a gospel song, even if I'm not religious.

mechorg:
Not to beat a dead horse, but I know where you are coming about her 'glorifying' cutting.

I kinda tried to touch on that my first post in this thread, but I guess it kinda got lost.

Example:
When I saw them in Coachella, there was quite a mix of people at the festival.  You could tell who came to see NIN just how they were dressed as with most other image mongering "individuals".  The Dresden Dolls fans were very easy to pick out, and that was what disturbed me since most of them were teenage girls.
I remember specifically two girls (didn't look old enough to drive) waiting in the food concessions line and being approached by 3 older guys (preppy types) obviously oodling over them because they followed Amanda's fasion trends (except much sluttier).  Sorry, but I just find something wrong with a 15 year old girl walking around in fishnet stockings, garder belt and straps with a teddy and black feather boa...

Whether its intentional or not, I don't like the image the band passes off to its fans (especially if they aren't even old enough to understand the musics content).  My friend told me they could have just as easily dressed like a slutty brittney spears... it just happens they listen to the Dresden Dolls.

For some reason, I doubt these girls know anything about cutting or the emotional pain someone with a depression disorder goes through.  People will take out of music what they want, and frankly I shouldn't have been suprised to see it in person.  My only previous experience with them was just the music, which held a completely different meaning to me (as I, myself, have friends that cut and I've been through the whole experience).

I'm tired, its late, and its hard for me to actually express my thoughts on this... its just something that irks me about them I can't quite place.

As for my straightforward opinion (thanks Jude :) )
"I like them lots."

Why does all music have to have an image attached to it?...

KharBevNor:
Well, the Dresden Dolls have to have an image attached to them because they're so theatrical. What is it they call themselves? Brechtian Post-punk Cabaret or something? Whatever, it has Brechtian in it, and that ain't a musical genre.

Like it or not, image is, in one way or another, a part of all music, be it a lesser or greater part. Some bands, like TDD, incorporate music and image equally to create a theatrical experience, some try and use image to compensate for sub-par or average music (rarely with any great success), some prefer to let their music do the talking: but even then they will have an image, even if it is just that projected by their album art. Hell, even the lack of an image is an image.

trill:
Music has an image, I think, because it's really fun to play dressup, and it's completely authorized when you're a musician.

Maybe the girls were just dressed up because they were going to see them. Maybe they were older than they looked, maybe they completely understand everything in the songs, becuase they've been through it or one of their friends has. Hell, maybe they can't even make out the vocals and they're just listening to them because it's cool.

And yeah, maybe Bad Habit is not the best song for a kid to be listening to. Maybe some of them will cut because of it. But I've got to say, as far as the cutters I know, it wasn't 'hey, I saw this in a movie and thought it would be cool, lalalalala.' They all had some seriously fucked up shit in their lives, and they would have (and did) find releases other than the cutting, like drinking and drugs, which are so much easier to get into.

Their music is not going to be anyone's first exposure to cutting. The idea was already planted long before they stumbled upon this band.

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