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sp2:
--- Quote from: mechorg ---For some reason, I doubt these girls know anything about cutting or the emotional pain someone with a depression disorder goes through.
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Borderline Personality Disorder (which is what I'm pretty sure Palmer has...definitely not depression) and self-mutilation all pretty much start showing up around the age of 12 (although borderline can't be diagnosed until 18, but that's technicalities). Most of the people I know who've struggled with cutting started around the age of 12.
It is not unthinkable that a 15 year old girl would understand what Palmer is talking about.
As for Dresden Dolls songs convincing kids to try cutting, please. Why not Pixies songs or NIN songs or Garbage songs or whatever? If anything, having access to songs about something you're struggling personally with, alone, unable to share with even your closest friends or family, may actually help you to open up and talk about your problems. It also means that people in general have had more exposure to your problems and are less likely to think you're some sort of sick freak who is completely abherrant and beyond help.
sp2:
--- Quote from: boeuf ---Why would I be concerned about drug use when I, to a lesser extent, do drugs myself?
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Cutting is, for the most part, just as safe as smoking pot or dropping acid. It's considered unhealthy because it means an individual is experiencing severe emotional distress, potentially experiencing dissociative symptoms, and lacks various coping skills.
I know people who have been extremely fucked up smoking pot because someone laced their weed with PCP. I know people who have cut deep enough that they have needed stitches. I also know many people who have smoked a hell of a lot of pot and have had no major health problems as a result. Similarly, I know individuals who have cut for upwards of ten years and have never caused more than cosmetic damage.
est:
i don't know anything about cutting, but i realise now that i have actually heard a Dresden Dolls song. i really liked the one that i did hear (coin-operated boy) so maybe i will have a look around for more of their stuff.
Coonstar:
--- Quote from: trill ---Music has an image, I think, because it's really fun to play dressup, and it's completely authorized when you're a musician.
Maybe the girls were just dressed up because they were going to see them. Maybe they were older than they looked, maybe they completely understand everything in the songs, becuase they've been through it or one of their friends has. Hell, maybe they can't even make out the vocals and they're just listening to them because it's cool.
And yeah, maybe Bad Habit is not the best song for a kid to be listening to. Maybe some of them will cut because of it. But I've got to say, as far as the cutters I know, it wasn't 'hey, I saw this in a movie and thought it would be cool, lalalalala.' They all had some seriously fucked up shit in their lives, and they would have (and did) find releases other than the cutting, like drinking and drugs, which are so much easier to get into.
Their music is not going to be anyone's first exposure to cutting. The idea was already planted long before they stumbled upon this band.
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I agree with this, I don't think that one should pass judgments quickly just because of appearances alone. The first band I ever liked was Garbage (I got into them when I was 9 years old), and I knew that most of their songs were about sex and lust or how unsatisfying sex and lust was. Doesn't mean I became supremely angsty or keen on experimenting with sex- it just means that I enjoy their music and find the content interesting. I think that people should give kids more credit, because not all kids or teeny boppers are tools to be manipulated by the media. Obviously there ARE posers but not EVERYONE that is young is a poser.
Well, back to the Dresden Dolls. I have to say, their album isn't the best but I think that they're going somewhere. And honestly, I believe that I probably like them as much as I do now only because of how down-to-earth, honest, and great the people are in the band. They're likeable, and they don't fake the angst and try hard to incorporate it into their image. Like what was stated before, most of the dramatic angst and such are just simply restricted to the music and in the shows, and don't greatly affect the band member's lives. Heck they earn money from it, what's so bad about that?
ElRodente:
--- Quote from: boeuf ---I don't know, a lot of her lyrics is just about how messed up she is.
Girl Anarchronism is a good example of that, I love the song and all, but the content can bother me sometimes. I know music is there to express yourself, I'm not trying to knock that at all, but it just doesn't rub me the right way is all.
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kinda like me and alkaline trio
great punk or whatever, but lyrics are a bit odd, so it's kinda annoying when you get one stuck in your head and all you can remember is "step one: slit my throat, step 2: bathe in my blood"
and none of the music... ¬_¬
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