Topic: Hip-Hop (Read 17890 times)

Boethius · « **on:** 08 Jun 2005, 01:23 »

While I'm a keen reader of QC, I've noticed within the comic and in the forums that the presence of Hip-Hop is almost non-existent. I know that the focus behind the comic is 'indie' music' but I was wondering what everybody else thought about Hip-Hop

My list would comprise of:
Time Machine
Buck 65
The Hilltop Hoods
Aesop Rock
Downsyde

azzamate84 · « **Reply #1 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 01:33 »

mate i doubt most of these guys would not recognise aussie groups like the hoodies or downsyde even though they are fantastic..

Other good hiphop groups..

Pete Rock & CL smooth
Roots Manuva
De La Soul
MF Doom
Jurrasic 5

Bonus points for anyone who knows groups in my list here (not including J5 and de la soul)

Shaft · « **Reply #2 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 02:00 »

AiM, Nightmares On Wax, Nostalgia 77, Herbaliser. and more! they rock my world. I would like more hip hop if there was less rapping.

_grace_ · « **Reply #3 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 06:20 »

i don't HATE hip-hop, i'd just rather not listen to it. Although it can be brilliant- from what i've hear of downsyde they seem good, and a local group called Micadelic (hip-hop? not sure. something like that) are darn good live!

heretic · « **Reply #4 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 06:26 »

Aesop Rock
Jedi Mind Tricks
De La soul (bonnaroo!)
jurrassic 5 (BONNAROO!!!)
MF Doom (rap snitches yall),
Capelton (it's dub i know)
Juggaknots,
Outkast (aquemini kicks ass, new stuff sucks),
Lyrics Born,
Gift of Gab,
Dizzee Rascal,
The Streets,
Madvillan

to name a few... and more dub--Black chiney

Condition Oakland · « **Reply #5 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 06:27 »

I've definately been feeling the love from Definitive Jux. I got into Aesop Rock and found all the other awesome people on the lable. EL-P is amazing.

Praeserpium Machinarum · « **Reply #6 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 06:58 »

I like hip hop(Streets, Roots and a couple of others) but I can't stand the braggadocio, that some hip hop acts use way too much time on . Basically I want more than shout-outs, how cool I am, PARTY and how my homies are all dying. Good original lyrics is all I ask. I am considering getting Sage Francis - A Healthy Distrust, Themselves - The No Music and cLOUDDEAD - Ten, anyone have them and are they good?

nihilist · « **Reply #7 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 07:37 »

Hrm. You guys look at older threads? I know that this topic keeps coming up a lot; there are a surprising number of people that listen to the genre.

Spencer · « **Reply #8 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 07:44 »

Look! Another Hip Hop umbrella thread!

LISTEN TO MORE ATMOSPHERE

Ha! I beat milkman dan to it this time!

heretic · « **Reply #9 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 07:49 »

damnit, i forgot atmosphere, slug's tha man...

"i love you, don't ever fucking question that!"

Condition Oakland · « **Reply #10 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 08:54 »

Quote from: Praeserpium Machinarum

I like hip hop(Streets, Roots and a couple of others) but I can't stand the braggadocio, that some hip hop acts use way too much time on . Basically I want more than shout-outs, how cool I am, PARTY and how my homies are all dying. Good original lyrics is all I ask. I am considering getting Sage Francis - A Healthy Distrust, Themselves - The No Music and cLOUDDEAD - Ten, anyone have them and are they good?

I can definately vouch for Sage Francis, everything he does is great.

zekterellium · « **Reply #11 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 10:53 »

i like outkast, murs, aim and el-p. hardly eclectic but i'm pretty new to it all. oh, and dj shadow is my favourite artist of all time. yay.

heretic · « **Reply #12 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 11:07 »

shadow is good. i got to see diplo and RJD2 earlier this year. that was the first time i saw lyrics born, he stole the show. the DJs were good too, but LB rocked the parish like no other

zekterellium · « **Reply #13 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 11:15 »

good call, rjd2 kicks it. and shadow is just a genius, i just downloaded this live set of his a week or so ago and it's immense. i love that guy.

Me And The Moon Car · « **Reply #14 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 11:15 »

I listen to Jurassic 5, A Tribe Called Quest, the Pharcyde, NWA, Public Enemy and others a lot. I adore NERD and the Neptunes' work, too. That's some fucking funky music right there.

heretic · « **Reply #15 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 11:35 »

fuck! tribe! hoe could i forget them?? i have too much music

sidenote: my computer just got to me afte a month in the mail, and i have all my music again. i tried to listen to it all yesterday, seeing as how it could play for at least 4 days straight (estimate, but then again that's my job) i failed and am really tired today

mizaktik · « **Reply #16 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 12:25 »

Tribe Called Quest
De La Soul
MF DOOM
Jurrasic 5
Fat Lip
Madlib
Monster Island Czars
Wu-Tang Clan
Pharcyde
Heiroglyphics
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien
Gorillaz (The hiphop tracks)

I really like hip-hop, it's good, but not my favorite genre

Radiowar · « **Reply #17 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 13:35 »

I'm really into Mood Ruff at the moment. Everybody should check out I Do My Own Stunts and/or the Antarctica: Cold Cold World EP.

The new Common album is disppointing because it is plagued with Kanye West's bullshit.

Merkava · « **Reply #18 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 14:07 »

I like Rap. I'd say I have a variety of tastes when it comes to music/movies.

Some groups/artists I like:

The Roots
Mos-Def
Common
Jurrassic 5
A Tribe Called Quest
Kanye West

For me, the soul is the best part of hip-hop. I love the way Kanye produces. He really adds that gospel/soul oomph to what are normally stale beats. The Roots have a jazz thing that I really dig, and all of them have talent.

Jooooosh · « **Reply #19 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 14:13 »

Do the Chemical Brothers count as Hip Hop?

kikanjuuneko · « **Reply #20 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 14:42 »

Probably not.

El-P and Company Flow. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Oh, and pretty much everyone on Anticon.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #21 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 16:44 »

I love this thread because it starts again and again and again. And it says the same things every time, but I read it every time.
Dr. Dre is Teh win, so is NWA, Tribe, Aceyalone, and blackalicious.
Also, I'm seeing wilco with the roots!

blooflame · « **Reply #22 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 19:02 »

I tend to like the variants of hip-hop sometimes called "fusion": usually a blend of jazz and hip-hop... think, Cantaloop by US3, "Cool Like Dat" by Diggable Planet, etc. AND stuff with really good lyrics and/or amazing rhymes: "Television The Drug Of The Nation" by Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy and "You Wash Your Face In My Sink" by Dream Warrior. "Step Right Up" by Tom Waits is another example of what I like, although most people wouldn't consider him "hip hop", this particular song is all rhyming jazz over a bass-and-sax jazz riff.

Admittedly, the examples I mentioned are "old" (in a relative sense) but well worth your time to check out. If you can find the Dream Warrior online, I'd be surprised.. I don't know the law about posting MP3s of bands that don't exist anymore (I don't think they do anyway) or I'd post this one somewhere.

La Creme · « **Reply #23 on:** 08 Jun 2005, 22:41 »

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The Roots
Mos-Def
Common
Jurrassic 5
A Tribe Called Quest
Kanye West

This list, with the exception of Kanye West, who i hate with a passion, is almost perfect. It just needs MF Doom (king gedorah, bitch), and Michael Franti, who, while being a total fucking hippie, also manages to make some incredibley true and fucking hilarious rhymes. Check out his song "Oh My God".

"Hell, I shot Ronald Reagon and I shot JFK. I slept with Marilyn, she sung me happy birthday"

Psiogen · « **Reply #24 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 00:15 »

Lots of great stuff has already been mentioned, but why is there no love for the Antipop Consortium, eh? EH????

Spencer · « **Reply #25 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 07:46 »

MF DOOM and/or MADVILLIANS

Quote from: blooflame

I tend to like the variants of hip-hop sometimes called "fusion": usually a blend of jazz and hip-hop...

You should listen to Common

heretic · « **Reply #26 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 08:05 »

i believe that MF Doom is the greatest hip hop artist in forever. fuck viktor vaughn (sp?)

deborah · « **Reply #27 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 12:16 »

who would win in a threeway fight:

MF Doom

Viktor Vaughn

or

King Geedorah

ps. nice representation of the minneapolis scene on this thread, but where's the love for brother ali?

MilkmanDan · « **Reply #28 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 13:10 »

Deborah: Here.
Spencer: Damn you! I will prevail next time this topic comes up. And it will, trust me.

However, I think typing up the same list as i always do will aid no-one, especially as most of them have already been mentioned. Instead, I will take the opposite view.
Fuck this Emo White-Boy Hip-Hop. Rhymesayers and Anticon are all just wanna-be Eminem's and they all suck. Go Old School. You should listen to:

Wu-Tang Clan (and all the solo stuff, dammit)
Mobb Deep
Ultramagnetic MCs
Nas
Notorious BIG
Big Daddy Kane
Eric B & Rakim
A Tribe Called Quest
Kool G Rap

No, seriously. You do. If nothing else, get 'The Infamous' by Mobb Deep. I've been listening to that album on heavy rotation recently. It's fucking awesome.

Condition Oakland · « **Reply #29 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 13:28 »

Ouch. Dig at Rhymesayers.

:/

Personally, I like slug. I haven't really heard much else from Rhymesayers.

Radiowar · « **Reply #30 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 13:54 »

I don't like Atmosphere.

Stones Throw is the best hip-hop label right now. Though the new Quasimoto album sucked hard.

deborah · « **Reply #31 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 14:00 »

Quote from: MilkmanDan

Deborah: Here.
Spencer: Damn you! I will prevail next time this topic comes up. And it will, trust me.

However, I think typing up the same list as i always do will aid no-one, especially as most of them have already been mentioned. Instead, I will take the opposite view.
Fuck this Emo White-Boy Hip-Hop. Rhymesayers and Anticon are all just wanna-be Eminem's and they all suck. Go Old School. You should listen to:

how can you give brother ali and mf doom the love and then say rhymesayers suck?

happybirthdaygelatin · « **Reply #32 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 15:13 »

He's full of shit. Him and another meat friend (non inertnet that is) have been getting me hooked on Rhymesayers stuff for awhile now.

Quote

12 hours? Pfft. I can listen to Slug for nearly 3 and a half days without repeating a track. Then again, Slug isn't MDM, so I imagine it's a much less gruelling experience.

Johnny C · « **Reply #33 on:** 09 Jun 2005, 18:36 »

Tryptik.

MilkmanDan · « **Reply #34 on:** 10 Jun 2005, 07:56 »

Quote from: deborah

how can you give brother ali and mf doom the love and then say rhymesayers suck?

Yeah, sorry. I assumed everyone would know I'm a total Rhymesayers whore by now. I am typing this while wearing a Rhymesayers hat and an Atmosphere Tshirt, listening to Mr Dibbs and downloading a Break of Dawn radio freestyle by Slug, Blueprint and some others. No shit. Other than rubbing myself against my record collection, I couldn't get much more RSE fanboy. I also listen to far too much Anticon for my own good. Jesus, I even have like 10 Dose One albums. Dose One for crying out loud. And I'm the whitest person you'll never meet.

So yeah, I was joking. However I wasn't joking in the slightest about the artists I listed. They are all amazing, and I get a little bored with alot of people constantly name-checking J5, Anticon, Def Jux, Rhymesayers, Jedi Mind Tricks and Quannum. They are all amazing, but I swear, people seem to think that all that stuff is some how seperate from the rest of Hip-Hop, and act like they're too good for everything else.

Whatever, I don't know why I'm getting all righteous, I need to chill out. I blame exam stress. Just listen to the stuff I listed. Seriously. I'm gonna go and listen to 'Shook Ones', and I suggest you join me.

Spencer · « **Reply #35 on:** 10 Jun 2005, 08:11 »

Milkman Dan is the biggest Ryhmesayers Whore i've ever met, in person or on the inner nets. I totally covet his collection and wish he would upload some more of his shit to my server, but he is a crochity old man and will not.

Also, I saw Beans the other night when Prefuse 73 came to town. He was awesome.

Quote from: deborah

who would win in a threeway fight:

MF Doom

Viktor Vaughn

or

King Geedorah

Dr. Octogon.

zekterellium · « **Reply #36 on:** 10 Jun 2005, 10:21 »

Quote from: pintsizeshomie

Do the Chemical Brothers count as Hip Hop?

um...

LightThievesAll · « **Reply #37 on:** 12 Jun 2005, 21:22 »

The fact that RJD2 stands for Ronnie James Dio the second makes me overflow with glee.

In addition:

Non-Phixion (download "The CIA is Trying to Kill Me", "I Shot Reagan", or "Black Helicopters" and tell me that they don't eat your face. How can you not love a group with the lyric, "I reign in blood, just like Slayer did in '86"?)

I can't believe no one mentioned Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone. You should be fucking ashamed.

Another note about Non-Phixion. In their song "The CIA is Still Trying to Kill Me", which is a metal remix of the previously mentioned song (complete with Dino from Fear Factory on guitar), there are references to Slayer, Megadeth, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and I seem to remember an Anthrax reference but I may be wrong. Also, their logo is modeled after the Voivod logo. Bottom line: Non-Phixion is really, really awesome, and they're metalheads, which makes them orgasmic.

JLM · « **Reply #38 on:** 12 Jun 2005, 21:46 »

Quote from: Praeserpium Machinarum

I like hip hop(Streets, Roots and a couple of others) but I can't stand the braggadocio, that some hip hop acts use way too much time on . Basically I want more than shout-outs, how cool I am, PARTY and how my homies are all dying. Good original lyrics is all I ask. I am considering getting Sage Francis - A Healthy Distrust, Themselves - The No Music and cLOUDDEAD - Ten, anyone have them and are they good?

I have Ten by clouddead and it's slightly above average. Doseone's nasally vocal style can be a bit grating after a few tracks. They're sort of like the "They Might Be Giants" of hip-hop.

New Roots Manuva is quite good...you might be interested in that.

Is it just the lyrical content you're looking for or are you into abstract beats as well?

Praeserpium Machinarum · « **Reply #39 on:** 13 Jun 2005, 03:10 »

both, I once heard someone say that a song should be 50/50 as to the importance of the music and lyrics, and I agree, so...
I think I remember something about Roots Manuva being a bit too introvert, in that he could rhyme about thinking that he thought about thinking yesterday, though that might be wrong...

salada · « **Reply #40 on:** 13 Jun 2005, 03:52 »

Quote from: Radiowar

I don't like Atmosphere.

Stones Throw is the best hip-hop label right now. Though the new Quasimoto album sucked hard.

first point: i agree. dunno, just never liked his rhymes.

second point: first bit yes, second bit WHAT!? it grows on you, i think.

in relation to australian hip hop, i'm surprised no-one has mentioned the elefant traks crew yet. they've been putting out some of the consistently best bets and rhymes in australia over the past few years. urthboy, pasobionic, unkle ho's solo thing, and apparently there's another herd album in the works...

azzamate84 · « **Reply #41 on:** 13 Jun 2005, 06:31 »

Viktor vaughnie would rip them both apart.. remember..

"there's no finer sound..
than firing a nine round...
by the time the slug hits the ground..
V be in china town."

im so impressed there are MF Doom fans in the house.. respect for you all in finding the genious who is doom.

azzamate84 · « **Reply #42 on:** 13 Jun 2005, 06:33 »

oh and..

Praeserpium Machinarum buy Roots Manuva - Brand new second hand (you will love it i promise)

and definitly get your hands on Sage Francis - a healthy distrust.

Spencer · « **Reply #43 on:** 13 Jun 2005, 08:52 »

The Living Legends have been popping up on my iTunes lately. I forgot I had their album. Pretty solid stuff. I've been hearing lots of good stuff about J-Live, and never checked him out. But sure enough, he's a member of the Living Legends, and he's pretty solid indeed. I think I'm gonna have to listen to them a bit more thoroughly.

heretic · « **Reply #44 on:** 13 Jun 2005, 10:28 »

the elusive Doom just played at a festival on the west coast (usa) too bad i was at bonnaroo, but i did get to see J5

MilkmanDan · « **Reply #45 on:** 13 Jun 2005, 13:04 »

Quote from: LightThievesAll

I can't believe no one mentioned Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone. You should be fucking ashamed.

Jesus fucking Christ! You're right. I coulda sworn I put down KRS One when I did that list of old school stuff. But I somehow missed him, and that makes me, and my list, retarded.

In other news, who's keen as a fucking bean for the MF Doom, Dangermouse and Adult Swim record? Me, that's who. Goddamn it's gonna be good.
He was supposed to play Dedbeat festival last year (as was KRS One) but both didn't turn up. KRS One won't fly anywhere and the doom couldn't get a Visa. It sucked ass. Well, actually it was the best festival ever, but it woulda been even better if they'd been there.

gaslight · « **Reply #46 on:** 14 Jun 2005, 23:08 »

I like hip hop.

More specifically I like;

Sage Francis
Jehst
Curse Ov Dialect
Pasobionic
Atmosphere

EDIT: ...why did it change the "O-v" in Curse Ov Dialect to "o-f"?

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Author Topic: Hip-Hop (Read 17890 times)

Boethius

azzamate84

_grace_

heretic

Condition Oakland

Praeserpium Machinarum

nihilist

Spencer

heretic

Condition Oakland

zekterellium

heretic

zekterellium

Me And The Moon Car

heretic

mizaktik

Merkava

kikanjuuneko

SeanBateman

blooflame

La Creme

Psiogen

Spencer

heretic

deborah

MilkmanDan

Condition Oakland

deborah

MilkmanDan

Spencer

zekterellium

Praeserpium Machinarum

azzamate84

azzamate84

Spencer

heretic

MilkmanDan

gaslight