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Johnny C:
Anyone else get depressed when they look in a thread and see comments that boil down to "MY MUSICAL TASTES ARE INFINITELY BETTER THAN YOURS CORPORATE RADIO WHORE, HURRRRRR"?

I expect it from the metal guys - mostly because it's funnier and tends to involve much more hilarious physical violence. But the rest of you, lighten up, will you?

punkpoet:
you think metal guys are bad for thretening physical violence, go to any "popular" club in you town and start saying that 50 cent isent  bouncin or that its "rap" not hip hop, the nearest drunk male will promptly threten you and halfassedly carry out said threat. thats when his moderately sober frineds proceed to kick your arse out the place.

everybody who loves music is eliteist. doesent matter what you listen to there is always that someone who is like that.so dont be depressed, just accept these people are out there adn if you really dont like them dont tlak to them.

i could go on and on, but i really dont feel like stereotyping anymore and the fact of the mattter is hell i may be wrong, this is just based on my experiance as someone who really likes music in all its forms.

saturnine1979:
eletism is just a result of people taking their musical tastes too personally. obviously when you like certain types of music alot, it's going to cause you to grow personally attatched, making it harder to talk about music based on logic rather than feelings.

it's like talking about sports teams. some people have a lot of themselves invested in a team, and some people just love the game. it's a lot harder to objectively talk about something when you have personal feelings involved.

there's nothing you can really do about it because most people are going to invest alot of themselves into what they listen to.

eletism is also a silly plea for attention. people don't have enough confidence in their own personal tastes, so they proclaim what's considered the most acceptable music as their own taste, not realizing that it's a very faulty ground to stand on. not everyone has the same view of what's considered "the best of the best".. or "the indiest of the indiest", so you can't rely on eletism to describe yourself.

plus eletists are assholes and they miss out on alot.

sp2:
I don't care if your tastes are different than mine.  Hell, not everything that
I like is good.  I have plenty of shit that I enjoy.  However, I can recognize that it's shit.

Saying "omg green day is teh bestest punk band evar" is just begging to be contradicted.  If you like them, fine.  I don't really care what you like.  But don't make definitive statements about the quality of the music you like just because you like it.  Have something to back it up.

If you want to discuss music more than "oh, hey, I am seeing arcade fire tomorrow"  "oh cool you are lucky" or "i got the new coldplay album and it is good" "ok that is not my taste but i am glad you enjoy it" then there will be arguments.  People's favorite bands will get insulted sometimes.  EVERYONE'S favorite bands.  So fucking what.  It makes things INTERESTING.  Interesting because it means you might get introduced to bands you've never heard of before.  Interesting because you may find out why someone else feels a particular way about a given band or genre that you hadn't thought of before.  Interesting because you will get the opportunity to figure out exactly what it is about a given band that YOU like.

Now, please, I know we don't like flame wars and all that jazz, but how the hell is a civil argument about the merits of a particular band bad?

saturnine1979:
sp2: because most of the time it isn't civil.

i have no problem discussing the pros/cons of my favorite bands, and i can readily admit when something isn't good, but some people can't have an intelligent conversation about it.

it ends up becoming "OMFG THAT BAND SUCKS AND SO DO YOU. STFU"

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