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Signum_Tenebrae:
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--- Quote from: Spencer ---This board (the music section at least) also revolves predominantly around Indie Culture (and seriously guys, we need to step up our efforts to get these metal heads the fuck out).
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You are completely right about the metal heads, I mean christ, don't they know that their scene is dead?
Time to hang up the KISS masks people!
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The metal "scene" isn't really dead, unfortunately. There are all these new metalcore crap bands getting pretty popular here in America.
A few years ago the metal scene was as dead as it should be. It needs to go back to that way!
yipjumpmusic:
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--- Quote from: yipjumpmusic ---Also even if they purposely attempted to get a certain sound, just because it fits into an existing genre does not make them sell outs.
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No. What makes them sellouts is that they had already crafted a sound when money wasn't a part of the picture, and they were doing it for fun. And that sound was distortion and feedback heavy avant rock. Then they changed that sound entirely and played something that was the opposite of pretty much everything they had done previously. There was no slow evolution into this new sound. It just happened an album or two ago. Maybe you're right and they decided, "oh, we're sick of this, let's do something nice and calm and all that jazz" but it seems suspicious to me that all of a sudden they change right when the indie sound became a moneymaker.
Crafting a sound that falls within an existing genre is not selling out, but changing an existing sound that you did because you enjoyed it into a stereotypical and relatively soulless simulacrum of an existing style because that's where the money is, yeah, that's selling out.
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Hmm sorry but all I see here is admitting you might be wrong and still no proof to back up your arguement.
Valrus:
--- Quote from: Sideways ---Do you mock other's religions?
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Point the First: Is this really a legitimate comparison? If so, I think maybe you need to take your music a little less seriously.
Point the Second: Yes, just not to peoples' faces.
--- Quote ---My point (that I think you missed) was; Mocking another person's tastes/choices/etc is taking the stance that YOUR own tastes/choices/etc are superior.
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I agree that the two might be correlated, but you don't have to believe that your choice is superior to someone else's to mock it. You just have to not like it. And inviting mockery of your own tastes is hardly setting yourself up as the Superior Being.
Meh!
sp2:
yipjump: the only way to know for certain if a band sold out is if you ask them and they say "Oh, yeah, definitely, we sold out. We like money more than music." However, a sudden change in music, especially when it comes simultaneously with a change in label (Blonde Redhead moved to 4AD at the same time as this sudden change in sound) is suspect, especially when these both coincide with a sudden popularity of a particular style. Anything's possible, and it could all be a big coincidence, but Occam's Razor suggests they sold out.
Sideways: I mock religions. Incessantly.
Kanno:
--- Quote from: Signum_Tenebrae ---
--- Quote from: Kanno ---
--- Quote from: Spencer ---This board (the music section at least) also revolves predominantly around Indie Culture (and seriously guys, we need to step up our efforts to get these metal heads the fuck out).
--- End quote ---
You are completely right about the metal heads, I mean christ, don't they know that their scene is dead?
Time to hang up the KISS masks people!
--- End quote ---
The metal "scene" isn't really dead, unfortunately. There are all these new metalcore crap bands getting pretty popular here in America.
A few years ago the metal scene was as dead as it should be. It needs to go back to that way!
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I was kidding about all that, and I think Spencer was too.
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