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KharBevNor:
I don't hate tool or NIN. I only get annoyed when either of the above mentioned genre confusions is done.

And also, when people claim that dude from Tool is the greatest drummer ever, which happens quite a lot. Lots of people can play unusual signatures and have big prog rock drum-kits.

sp2:

--- Quote from: Hatebunny ---and people don't like tool because they don't understand the lyrics,
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Myth.  Most people who don't like Tool lyrically do so because the lyrics are generally soulless.  The real reason most people get tired of Tool is that every song sounds more or less the same and each song is waaaay too long.



--- Quote ---and people don't like nin because trent reznor sings about himself. woopdedoo.
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No, Trent Reznor is just really hit or miss lyrically.  Some of his songs are really fucking dead on, with good coherent and powerful lyrics.  This is, unfortunately, maybe 3 songs per album.  Everything else is whiny, incoherent, and rambly, and the lyrics just sound like a middle school diary.

Kanno:
Danny Carey isn't the best drummer evar, BUT:

He has an amazing way of setting up song sections with his fills.  He knows the feel of a song better than most drummers out there.  He knows when to be quiet, when to rock out, and when to step it up a notch.  All his fills are fiercely creative, as are his beats.  He's technical when he needs to be, and he doesn't overdo it.

He definitely isn't another prog-rock drummer with a big kit.  He's not the best drummer ever, but he's WAY up there on the list.

Hatebunny:
Looks like we need to start up a 'tool and what's cool and not cool about them thread' ...it's too hard to argue nin. people don't know how to argue about nin in terms of musicality.

Kai:
I was going to say something about Tool being art rock, but it's the wrong thread.



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what the hell.


In terms of Art Rock, it's really, really, boring, bland art rock. Maybe I'm just a snob because I listen to The Mother's Freak Out over and over and am consistently listening to half of the fucking Resident's discography. Now that stuff is art rock.

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