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sp2:
Questionable. It could be argued that 24 Hour Revenge Therapy was just plain old 90s Wave Punk. 90s punk, for a large part, strayed out of the political arena and into the personal arena anyways, and most of the acts that didn't were all pretty much tools that were cynically going through the motions of punk. While 24HRT was definitely a personal album, and talked a lot about how sucktastic life was, I don't think Jawbreaker really strayed into the dangerous realm of emo until Dear You.
I suppose you could call most 90s personal punk "1st Wave Emo" and just be done with it, but that would tag an emo label on a lot of bands that probably don't deserve that moniker.
lastclearchance:
--- Quote from: sp2 ---I suppose you could call most 90s personal punk "1st Wave Emo" and just be done with it, but that would tag an emo label on a lot of bands that probably don't deserve that moniker.
--- End quote ---
That's kind of the trouble with the moniker "emo." That sort of trouble comes up later on too: one of the most influential albums of late-90s emo was most decidedly NOT in the genre (Weezer's "Pinkerton" of course).
sp2:
What's the trouble, that no one really knows what the fuck they're talking about when they use it? I guess it's like pornography, everyone thinks they knw it when they see it, but no one can really agree on the same things actually BEING emo.
By some definitions, hell, even Soundgarden and Nirvana have at least a foot in the emo scene.
I think this is one of those times where we all need to stop arguing and beat the shit out of the guy with the retro jacket and the Buddy Holly glasses.
My Aim Is True:
I understadn the emo progressing thing, and I'll concede Sunny Day Real Estate, Saves The Day and Get Up Kids and stuff like that, but the wattered down crap like Brand New and Hawthorne Heights or whatever the hell it is this week... I just can't call that emo the same way I can't call Mest, Busted and Good Charlotte punk bands.
est:
stickying this for now so that it doesn't get lost while i'm in the land of nod.
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