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mechorg:
The only point I was trying to make, Robbo, is that a simple genre such as 'emo' or 'metal' or 'alternative' or the like can be so objective that arguing over a sound of a certain genre is rediculous because many people can view it differently.
I think its just hard to understand what you are saying in your posts sometimes.
I don't mind using words to describe music, like Khar said to find other music you like, but don't name it as a genre. Just be more descriptive and actually talk about the music. Don't just try to simplify thinks and stick a genre to it.
If someone asks what a band sounds like, don't just say "oh, they are emo"... maybe the person that asked wants to know a little more about the sound.
mahlon:
WHAT ABOUT MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE? DASHBOARD CONFESSIONAL? RYAN CABRARA? NEW FOUND GLORY?
Fuck, get your emo straight.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: mechorg ---I don't mind using words to describe music, like Khar said to find other music you like, but don't name it as a genre. Just be more descriptive and actually talk about the music. Don't just try to simplify thinks and stick a genre to it.
If someone asks what a band sounds like, don't just say "oh, they are emo"... maybe the person that asked wants to know a little more about the sound.
--- End quote ---
But surely that IS the genre? Isn't this whole THREAD about NOT just saying 'oh, they are emo'?
est:
i think that genres are useful as a rather broad way of defining a band. but after a while you have to start saying things like "oh, they are emo/pop-punk/heavy metal/whatever genre and the guitars in it sound a little like band1 and the singer reminds me of that dude from band2" etc.
not writing off genres as a good way to quickly narrow down a band's sound, just saying that maybe a lot of people take them too seriously.
Robbo:
Hey, est....just because you don't know people that can't keep it undercontrol with genres...doesn't mean everyone is like that ok? And not all genres are THAT board. If it's an issue of detail, should just be left to actuall describing the band.
Eg: What does band "XZY sound like?" Short answer: "They're genre PQ" "Ok, they got any fine details or influences?" Long answer "Well, they draw the odd thing from genre PR on this album..and the guitars used to like like band ABC but now they sound more like DCA"
It's a case of what detail you need to talk about a band. I'm gonna try to make an example here. I'm gonna use Metal so live with it. Some genres are big and complex...and you've all heard me and Khar talk about how Metal. But saying a band is just "Metal" is like saying someone lives in New York. So if you want more detail, you start on subgenres...which narrow the field, give a little more detail. Say if a band is Progressive Death Metal or Symphonic Black Metal...would be the same as do they live in Queens ot Manhattan? Maybe you could get another level of detail in after that....But by that point....you'd know the ball park. So if you wanted more info...you'd actually be describing the band. Like what combinations of styles they actually use, how the sound compeared to other bands in that subgenre and where they sit in relation to other genres. Would come to saying what sort of building the person lives in...and where the building is in relation to the surrounding areas.
Yeah...forgive me lack of knowledge of NY...but I hope that makes a better picture.
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