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at what point does sound become music?

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Gryff:
I don't think art is a whole different question at all.

I think you could say that music is what people say it is, just like art, hence why "found sounds" can be considered music. It's the same as when Marcel Duchamp put a urinal in an exhibition and called it a work of art. It's very difficult to draw any strict lines because what we consider art, or more specifically music, changes constantly.

Also, The Disintegration Loops have my seal of approval, if that means anything to you!

Robbo:
Well, I see art as a different question, because I'm not an active lover of art like I am of music. Not really in the same place to comment and from where I stand, it seems a bigger and more complex idea to me in some ways.

Though one point I think you're trying to make is...it changes with our ability to create it...because of the value we see in things made by humans and their tools. That or its some stuff about socity and social structures and psychological states that are probably far to long winded for here and now.

Anyway, you seal of approval? Means someone that may or may not know what they're on about likes it. Just like a lot of things. Just dont try to say it means I should take Indie in the same light ok? :P

KharBevNor:
Is there any real difference between art and music?

Surely a piece of music is as much a work of art as the mona lisa is a great work of literature, if you see what I mean. All different mediums.

Gryff:

--- Quote from: Robbo ---Just dont try to say it means I should take Indie in the same light ok?
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I wouldn't dream of it :P


--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---Surely a piece of music is as much a work of art as the mona lisa is a great work of literature, if you see what I mean. All different mediums.
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Exactly. I'm saying that music is a form of art so it falls under the more general question that people have been asking for thousands of years.

What we define as art changes due to many things. Society, technology etc...

Merkava:

--- Quote from: Gryff ---I don't think art is a whole different question at all.

I think you could say that music is what people say it is, just like art, hence why "found sounds" can be considered music. It's the same as when Marcel Duchamp put a urinal in an exhibition and called it a work of art. It's very difficult to draw any strict lines because what we consider art, or more specifically music, changes constantly.

Also, The Disintegration Loops have my seal of approval, if that means anything to you!
--- End quote ---


That Disintegration Loops thing reminds me of this Flaming Lips record I saw in my local Tower Records. It was two discs, and it asked the listener to put them both on at the same time. I didn't buy it since I don't really like The Lips, but it seemed interesting. Wierd sound experiments interest me.

Which reminds me, I have yet to actually experience Dark Side of the Moon synched up with the Wizard of Oz. My sister says it actually works.

And yay, we DO agree on something, Robbo! :D

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