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at what point does sound become music?
Garcin:
Yep, we humans are pretty amazing at pattern recognition. That's why we can still beat computers at Go. So good that we tend to find patterns where none exist. Hence divine faces in rutabaga.
Ok, so based on what you said, if a car backfires in a tunnel, and due to some incredibly unlikely coincidence, it sounds exactly like a guitar riff from Perfect From Now On, is it music?
--Moiche
Merkava:
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--- Quote from: Merkava ---
"You know, I can hold a high note for an eternity, but really, after a while, it's just sound; white noise. It's not the notes that make music, but the change of notes."
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If it's just the one note...it's just a sound maybe? Though there is music made using just the one note...though it's not just the flat use of one note. With shifts and changes (as much as you can get) such as Dreams of Dying Stars - Aeon E which is over an hour long. Thought it should be pointed out it was an experimention in minialist ambient/drone music.
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Exactly. It's the change or manipulation of notes that creates music. It's no coincidence that that quote was a metaphor for life, either. XP
Robbo:
Moiche, maybe if it was a good riff :P . But seriously...I don't know about that...but if someone sampled it...could certainly be used to make music. Or, if the backfiring was intention...specially if done repeatly to make the song play out...would be music. Weird but musical.
Merkava, we agree on something. Let's mark this as a rare and happy day when the planets must have alined or something like that.
Gryff:
Here we go again... What is art?
Has anyone heard the Disintegration Loops by William Basinski? This guy went to transfer all this music that he made decades ago from tape to CD, but as he was running the tape, it started to dissolve. So he recorded it anyway, looped it, and made four discs of this weird, totally organic sounding ambient music. Some of the tracks are 40 minutes long. It's mesmerising - I couldn't stop listening to it!
Robbo:
Hold up there....art is a whole different question. The music one we seem to agree one and it seems to work within our own ideas.
I haven't heard said music but I would like to, it does sound like the sort of thing I'd listen to..give what I've talked about in this thread and in other places. Sounds like a fine example of intention and soundcreation to me.
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