Topic: Dance Music (Now with added 'name that song!') (Read 22051 times)

MilkmanDan · « **on:** 18 Jul 2005, 10:28 »

Ok, so, first things first. I went to a festival last weekend, and it involved many, many banging tunes. However, there was one that was so outrageously awesome I almost cried. Well, I almost cried when I realised I had no idea what it was called or who it's by. Or even what genre it is, now I think about it.
Basically, it's got an FX-ridden voice saying "Feel the beat" the whole damn time over some kickass beat. Then it drops a bit from "Apache" by Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band. Not the bongo bit, the "Dah, dah dah dah, dah dah daaaaah" kinda thing. Then it drops the beat and vocal in again. Repeat. Then the Bongos from Apache. Then Bongos + Bassline. Then vocals.
Something like that anyway. Given the fact it was dropped 3 times by seperate DJs, I can only assume it's a pretty big tune. I don't know if anyone is really into straight up dance music, but let's hope so.
Also, while we are on the topic of asking people to name songs based only on my typing "Dah dah dah", here's another one for you. You know the flat Eric song? Twas massive maybe 5ish years ago and in the Levi's adverts. Well, There is another songs which uses the exact same Synth sound, but it just plays the same note again and again, faster and faster, until it's just a tone, then repeats. Any ideas? Man, that's even worse than the last one.

Now, as the chances of anyone knowing those songs are low, I have another option for you. List some songs that make you go crazy and dance like a loon. Preferably actual dance songs, rather than any of that "I dance to Bloc Party and the Kaiser Chiefs or whatever, because I don't actually like fun" shit.

In the spirit of this idea, let me get these incredibly obvious examples out of the way:
Faithless - Insomnia
Chemical Brothers - Hey Boy, Hey Girl

ASturge · « **Reply #1 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 10:29 »

Reach - S Club 7

FUCK YEAH

Se7en · « **Reply #2 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 10:39 »

I'l stick with franz ferdinand and the like for my dancing needs thanks..

Praeserpium Machinarum · « **Reply #3 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 10:48 »

Finntroll - Forsvinn Du som Lyser
Kaizer's Orchestra - Kontroll på Kontinentet
Basement Jaxx - Where's Your Head At?
David Byrne - Like Humans Do
Powersolo - Katzenjammer(Powersoul) and Juanita
Boom Device - Yesterday's Enterprise
Sash - Just Around the Hill
and the godawful but full of nostalgia eurodance tune called(inventively) Bailar
The Fiery Furnaces - Tropical Iceland

I am actually more a pogo man meself

heretic · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 10:55 »

any ska, latin music (for the sexy almost sex dancing), or infected mushroom for raving. also, capelton for stoner wieght shifting

KharBevNor · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 11:02 »

Just going for actual dance as the title meant it. This includes some goth stuff, because all proper goth stuff is made for dancing. Hell, goth even gets on that 'Ishakur's Guide' thing:

Aborym - Chernobyl Generation (Kinda like evil trance/ebm, great shit)/Does Not Compute
Bauhaus - Bela Lugosi's Dead/She's In Parties
Count Nosferatu Kommando - Political Police/L.K. Nosferat/Kommando '96/Bunkermoon Khaos 3/Jim Beamed Ahnenherbe TV
E Nomine - Mitternacht [Extended Version] (Best fucking build-up ever)/Vater Unser/Lucifer/Deine Welt
Gothminister - Devil (Icon of Coil Remix)/Pray
Hanzel Und Gretyl - SS Deathstar Supergalactick/Disko Fire Scheisse Messiah/Third Reich From the Sun
Killing Miranda - I Know What You Want/H8red
Kompressor - Kompressor Does Not Dance
KMFDM - Son of a Gun/Sucks/A Drug Against War
Laibach - Tanz Mit Laibach (Cannot be emphasised enough)/Dogs of War/Satanic Versus
Lords of Acid - Out Comes the Evil/Show Me Your Pussy/I Sit on Acid
Ministry - /Jesus Built My Hotrod (Redline/Whiteline version)/Warp City/No "W"/Psalm 69/Every Day is Halloween
Rammstein - Du Hast (Clawfinger Remix)/Adios/Moskau/Links 2 3 4/Weissches Fleische/Mein Teil [There Are No Guitars on This Remix]
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Spellbound/Peekabo/Head Cut/Exterminating Angel
Sisters of Mercy - Vision Thing/This Corrosion/No Time To Cry
VNV Nation - Afterfire
:wumpscut: - On The Run/Funeral Diner [Red Tape Mix]/Koslow/Soylent Green [Extended Version]

Missed off some I think, but that's a pretty good list.

heretic · « **Reply #6 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 11:05 »

i fucking love Links 2 3 4
i think that's one of the few bands you like that i know, khar, well, and everyone knows Siouxie Sioux

ASturge · « **Reply #7 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 12:16 »

New Rhodes are extremly dancable

Sythe · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 12:52 »

Quote from: heretic

i fucking love Links 2 3 4

I've read the translated ver. of Rammstein lyrics. Creepy at best.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #9 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 12:57 »

I love Rammstein lyrics. Links 2 3 4 is actually a great concept, with the interplay of political imagery, the marching idea and then the words...

"My heart beats to the LEFT two three four LEFT two three four"

sp2 · « **Reply #10 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 13:21 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

A lot of awesomme goth and industrial

What, no Skinny Puppy?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #11 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 13:40 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

Missed off some I think, but that's a pretty good list.

Skinny Puppy - Grave Wisdom/Curcible

and now I think on't
Lacrimosa - Mondengel/Schakal/Darkness
London After Midnight - Where Good Girls Go to Die/Your Worst Nightmare/Psycho Magnet
XII.Stoleti - Bela Lugosi's Dead [Industrial Dance Remix]/London After Midnight/Opus Pro Macbeth
Zeromancer (it counts) - Dr. Online/Eurotrash/God Bless the Models/Raising Hell

and probably some more.

I'd also dance to a good deal of 90's mass-produced industro-rock, I'm thinking:

Marilyn Manson - Cake and Sodomy/Mechanical Animals/Fight Song/Dope Show
Nine Inch Nails - Becoming/Wish/Starfuckers Inc./Closer
Rob Zombie - Dragula/Living Dead Girl/House of a 1000 Corpses/Superbeast

in particular. Rob Zombie is just the shit I cannot get over liking. It's all basically just pretty fun music, the problem is idiotic teenagers who take the bands seriously, when it's clear the artists themselves (except possibly Trent) don't to any great extent.

*sigh* I wish we still had this stuff instead of emo.

heretic · « **Reply #12 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 13:48 »

ok, the mainstreme stuff you like is exactly the metal i like. i'm just not enough of a metal head to divert energy from my indie desires.
for manso, fight song is excellent/ don't like the drugs(but the drugs like me)/ tainted love/ dissassociative/ the speed of pain
this is when i feel like creepy death dancing of course. man i need to have a goth day soon

KharBevNor · « **Reply #13 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 13:55 »

You should try Killing Miranda. They're actually a pretty similiar style, with a more classic goth influence, they just never broke the mainstream.

Something rocky off their most mainstream styled album:

H8red

"I've got you in my sights
And I'm not giving up until I've fucked you over
My life's work is your misery
It means everything to me to make you suffer
I won't let you forget me, no

It's such a high to see how low you can go
How sweet your agony can be: so pretty
Happiness is in the tears you cry, the music of your sighs
Savour the pain in your eyes"

Their earlier stuff was way more dancey and sampley, and I think it was a decline. Fun, still.

dancarter · « **Reply #14 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 16:00 »

this is going to look a lot like a big ebm/industrial fest after the last few posts, but here are a few more along those lines:

Assemblage 23 - Silence(lofi quietude rmx by Converter)/Ground/Document(Schreibgeschuetzt rmx) or (Echo Image rmx)/Survivor(Destiny's Child cover)
Android Lust - Resolution/Suffer the Flesh(Musculus Infinitus rmx)/The Want
Celldweller - Last Firstborn/Frozen
Combichrist - Sex, Drogen, and Industrial/This Shit Will Fuck You Up
Curve - Chinese Burn
Cut.Rate.Box - Brittle
Flesh Field - The whole of the album 'Strain'/Cyberchrist/The Concrete Divide
Icon of Coil - Repeat It(Frequency Edit)
Imperative Reaction - Fault/Diminish Me/Faded Into One/Redemption
Interlace - Master
The Mercy Cage - Hymn/Prozac, God, and the Atomic Bomb
Neikka RPM - Here's Your Revolution(Red Venom rmx)
Seabound - Contact
System Syn - Momentary Absolution
Soman - Falling/Fly
VNV Nation - Dark Angel(Das Ich Apocalypse rmx)/Kingdom(Restoration rmx)/Beloved(Grey Dawn Version)/Entropy

SpacemanSpiff · « **Reply #15 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 16:17 »

Quote from: Sythe

Quote from: heretic
i fucking love Links 2 3 4

I've read the translated ver. of Rammstein lyrics. Creepy at best.

If by creepy you mean "stupid", then yes, I agree with you. Most of Rammstein's lyrics really just seem like a desperate attempt to be politically incorrect without going too far so censors will ban the sale of the CD or - even worse - MTV stops airing the videos.
Rammstein lose a lot of their "scary German"-appeal if you are German yourself, I guess.

More on topic:
North of America - Wet To Dance
Turbonegro - Get It On
Q And Not U - Soft Pyramids
Q And Not U - A Line In The Sand
Q And Not U - Wonderful People
Q And Not U - X-Polynation
Rocket From The Crypt - Tarzan
Electric Eel Shock - Suicide Rock'n'Roll
Electric Eel Shock - Do The Metal
Electric Eel Shock - Rock'n'Roll Can Rescue The World
Some stuff by Fatboy Slim

KharBevNor · « **Reply #16 on:** 18 Jul 2005, 21:20 »

If you don't at least think the lyrics to Zwitter are funny, then you're a dull person.

Gah, Angelspit! Just chuck down their entire first EP, especially Maggot, Fuck Fashion and Head Kult.

Also, would this be the wrong place to mention Zombina and the Skeletones?

TH89 · « **Reply #17 on:** 19 Jul 2005, 12:50 »

Meat Beat Manifesto - I Am Electro
(And it's legal, this recording is from a video that's on their label's site.)

DJ Spooky & Dave Lombardo & Chuck D & Vernon Reid & Jack Dangers - B-Side Wins Again (Woo supergroup, same deal with this one--label site)

kidd o · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 Jul 2005, 13:40 »

I actually dj indie punk dance

so the tracks on my cds look like this

available - moving units
no, not now - hot hot heat
tell her tonight - franz ferdinand
house of jealous lovers - the rapture
damaged goods - gang of four
deceptecon - Le Tigra
I dissappear - The Faint
Blue Jeans - Ladytron
Date with the night - The yeah yeah yeahs
Such great heights - Postal Service
Alone, Together - Mt. Sims
No cars go - The Arcade fire
Norc - Interpol
Planet of Sound - The pixies
Storm the leigon - !!!

Skibas_clavicle · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 Jul 2005, 18:08 »

Marry me?

Hot Hot Heat - Talk To Me, Dance With Me
Fischerspooner - Megacolon/Sweetness
Eagles of Death Metal - I Only Wanty You
Basement Jaxx - Red Alert
Metric - Succexy
Kid Koala - Skanky Panky
Weezer - Getchoo
Pixies - Wave Of Mutilation (others that I cant think of)
Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole CD
Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - Timorous Me, The High Party, etc.
Moby - Body Rock
Motion City Soundtrack - The Future Freaks Me Out
THE HIVES/SAHARA HOTNIGHTS - ANYTHING
The Safes - Sing Along
The Transplants (I know, they suck) - DJ, DJ
Le Tigre - My My Metrocard/TKO/Deceptacon
Beulah - Silver Lining
PULP
I don't care what people say, ska makes me skank like nothing else.

Mnementh · « **Reply #20 on:** 19 Jul 2005, 23:16 »

Three off the top of my head.

OMD - Enola Gay
Björk - Big Time Sensuallity
Most Gipsy Kings songs.

Tinjessla · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 Jul 2005, 02:49 »

It's a little bit of everything which usually get me off my ass and dancin'..

Daft Punk - High Life and Robot Rock
Metric - Dead Disco
Goldfrapp - Strict Machine
Practically all of Go Home Productions crazy mash ups.
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Man
Southside Spinners - Luvstruck
Ladytron - Oops, Oh My
Basement Jaxx - Romeo, Lucky Star and Red Alert.
Felix Da Housecat - Rocket Ride
Beastie Boys - Intergalactic
Prodigy - No Good (Start the Dance)
Hot Hot Heat - Touch You, Touch You
DJ Jean - The Launch
Yomanda - Synths and Strings

amok · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 Jul 2005, 10:48 »

The Faint - Glass Danse (Oakenfold rmx)
Fischerspooner - Emerge (Junkie XL rmx)
Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
Faithless - God is a DJ
Goldfrapp - Strict Machine

VNV Nation - Standing (Motion) / a lot of the new album
A23 - Let The Wind Erase Me / Document (Das Ich rmx)
Apoptygma Berzerk - Unicorn (Fairlight Children rmx)
Icon of Coil - Floorkiller
Cesium:137 - Atrophy (Imperative Reaction rmx)
De/Vision - Drifting Sideways (T.O.Y. radio edit)
Iris - Annie, Would I Lie To You? (Y1.999K Extension)

etc.

Not An Addict · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 Jul 2005, 11:33 »

Daft Punk - Da Funk (oh, sweet heavenly bass thumps)
Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl
Snoop Dogg - Drop it Like It's Haaaaawwwt
Underworld - King of Snake
Tom Tom Club - Genius of Love
Animotion - Obsession
Kelis - Milkshake
New Order - Blue Monday
Madonna - Express Yourself
M/A/R/R/S - Pump up the Volume
Blondie - Heart of Glass
Queen - Another One Bites the Dust

Acclrator · « **Reply #24 on:** 20 Jul 2005, 12:58 »

VNV Nation.. Yay. I have to say.. I've never really been disappointed with them..

JLM · « **Reply #25 on:** 20 Jul 2005, 14:44 »

LCD Soundsystem - Disco Infiltrator/Losing My Edge/Yeah/Tribulations
Jazzanova - Almost anything by them
Koop - Relaxing at Club Ph***in/Absolute Space/Glömd
Photek - Modus Operandi
Blue Six - Sweeter Love
Yukihiro Fukutomi - Play Back
Sade - By Your Side (Ben Watt Lazy Dog Remix)
Kim English - Been So Long (Wamdue Speakeasy Vocal Mix)
Jori Hulkkonen - Anything by him
The Persuader/Jesper Dahlback - Stockholm
Trüby Trio - Jaleo/High Jazz
Herbert feat. Dani Siciliano - So Now.../Going Round
Blame - Firestorm/Sirenoid/360 Clic
Polar - The Other Side/Out of the Blue
ADNY - Shiver Me/What if I Love
Seba - Valley of the Moomins/Soul 2000
This could go on for a while

happybirthdaygelatin · « **Reply #26 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 09:47 »

De Le Soul - Me, My Self, And I
A bunch of stuff Khar mentioned.
Some of Oghr's solo stuff.
Anything really with George Clinton involved.
Same goes for James Brown.
Switchblade Symphony
A lot of the early 90's gangster rap that sampled 70's funk and funkadilic heavily.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #27 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 10:36 »

Hmmm, I think I shall have to blow my own trumpet again. Although, of course I would never really have a chance to dance to any of this stuff, as of course about ten people have heard my music:

Halo of Flies - Vicious Square [No Thrills Version]/Empire of the Daleks/Salvation [Industrial Overdrive Remix]/Ich Bin Das Nacht/St. Anthony's Fire/ Deathcrush [Genocide on the Dancefloor Version]

happybirthdaygelatin · « **Reply #28 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 10:49 »

Oh man, is that still up? I haven't got around to checking it out.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #29 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 11:03 »

All indications say yes.

http://robbo.oeck.net/Stuff/Fertile_Forests_of_the_Imagination.rar

In case that doesn't work

Empire of the Daleks [Genesis Iteration]

Deathcrush [Genocide on the Dancefloor Version] < My insanely irreverent Mayhem cover.

Ich Bin Das Nacht

The more dancey ones from my soundclick page:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/haloofflies_music.htm

(Unfortunately I think you need to sign up to listen in-situ)

Hatebunny · « **Reply #30 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 13:21 »

since hardly anyone's actually mentioned any real DANCE music...
REAL dance music that makes me wanna dance:

KMFDM - Juke Joint Jezebel
Guardians of the Earth - StarChildren
ProclikClavit(?) - in search of the sun
Paul van Dyk - The Riddle (Tell me why)
Paul Van Dyk - Forbidden Fruit (food of love mix feat. BT)
Paul van Dyk - Words (Words for Love mix)
Moby - Running
Hybrid - If I survive
Hybrid - Kill City
Radiohead - Idioteque
The Echoing Green - Fall Awake
Tenth Planet(chapter?) - Ghosts
Gouryella - Tenshi
Alice Deejay(eeew) - Will I Ever?
Aqua (also eew) - Freaky Friday
the Prodigy - Breathe
Nine Inch Nails - the Perfect Drug
Antarctica - Return to Reality
Sundance - Sundance

that's all I can think of off the top of my head, but I've heard a lot of really good dance music in my time. I made a hobby of it listening to unsigned melodic trance artists on mp3.com for two years or so...made up at least 12 mixed CDs of the stuff. It was awesome.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #31 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 14:23 »

Plenty of people have mentioned proper dance music. I restricted myself nigh on totally to dance music (as I said, proper goth music is built for dancing). It's just certain 'omg disregard thread title list lots of indie' people...

Speaking of goth that's built for dancing, how the hell could I forget...

Inkubus Sukkubus - Vampire Punk Rockers From Hell/Queen of the May/Lucifer Rising/I Just Can't Get You Out Of My Head/Take the Kiss/Underworld/Vampyre Erotica/Beltaine/Vermillion Rush/Goblin Jig/Supernature.....hell, everything. Inkubus Sukkubus are almost certainly better than whatever you are currently listening to.

lastclearchance · « **Reply #32 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 14:34 »

Incidentally, has anyone figured out the song MilkmanDan was originally referring to? I think I know how it goes, but not what it's called...

happybirthdaygelatin · « **Reply #33 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 15:21 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

All indications say yes.

I still fucking forgot to check this out at lunch. I'm staying late and will do so. Will. Not. Forget.

sp2 · « **Reply #34 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 15:46 »

Quote from: Hatebunny

since hardly anyone's actually mentioned any real DANCE music...
REAL dance music that makes me wanna dance:

Radiohead - Idioteque

This amuses me endlessly.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #35 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 15:52 »

Haha, didn't notice that.

...haha.

Hmm, reflecting a bit more, imo some Sopor Aeternus is perfectly danceable, although it mainly puts an emphasis on sitting somewhere dark crying and stabbing yourself. Holy Water Moonlight, The Feast of Blood or Flesh Crucifix would get me on the dance floor though.

JLM · « **Reply #36 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 16:38 »

Quote from: MilkmanDan

However, there was one that was so outrageously awesome I almost cried. Well, I almost cried when I realised I had no idea what it was called or who it's by. Or even what genre it is, now I think about it.
Basically, it's got an FX-ridden voice saying "Feel the beat" the whole damn time over some kickass beat. Then it drops a bit from "Apache" by Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band. Not the bongo bit, the "Dah, dah dah dah, dah dah daaaaah" kinda thing. Then it drops the beat and vocal in again. Repeat. Then the Bongos from Apache. Then Bongos + Bassline. Then vocals.
Something like that anyway. Given the fact it was dropped 3 times by seperate DJs

Let's start with the basics and maybe we can figure this out. Can you give me the name of at least one of the DJ's who played the tune? From there I can probably figure out style and that'll help narrow it down a bit.

Hatebunny · « **Reply #37 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 18:38 »

hey, most of that other stuff was real dance music...
I just through in some other songs that make me wanna dance.

sp2 · « **Reply #38 on:** 21 Jul 2005, 23:00 »

Quote from: Hatebunny

hey, most of that other stuff was real dance music...
I just through in some other songs that make me wanna dance.

Eh. It's more like you're trying to sound industrial-literate or techno-literate, but just failed.

Seriously, no Bauhaus, no Ministry...jeesh.

kidd o · « **Reply #39 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 01:26 »

dance music is a pretty subjective classification... I've had 200 people dancing at a party to the faint...

does it sound like sasha? no, but that dosen't mean it's not dance...

MilkmanDan · « **Reply #40 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 03:33 »

Quote from: JLM

Let's start with the basics and maybe we can figure this out. Can you give me the name of at least one of the DJ's who played the tune? From there I can probably figure out style and that'll help narrow it down a bit.

The problem is, it was played in the main tent, which is a mix of everything. If it was in the breakbeat tent, or PsyTrance stage or anything like that, it would have been a lot easier. The other problem is that it was dropped by incidental DJs. You know, the DJs who play while the next big act is setting up. All of which gave me the vibe that it was a really well known classic to keep the crowds happy while they waited for the main event. That's the only reason I gave it a shot, as the QC forums aren't exactly a bastion of dance music. I shoulda asked someone what it was at the time. I probobly would have forgotten it anyway, I was a little worse for wear.
Anyway, I guess it wasn't Trance, Techno, Drum n Bass or Acid, which leaves Breakbeat. Or 'Nu-school Breaks' as I believe it's known these days.

Anyway, I'll add some more dance crazy to the mix.
Roni Size - Brown Paper Bag
Ebony Dubstars - Power of Rah!
Squarepusher - Come on my Selector
Ralph Myerz & The Jack Herren Band - Think twice (and pretty much everything else they've done)
The Rogue Element - My Style

Tinjessla · « **Reply #41 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 05:25 »

Quote from: MilkmanDan

Squarepusher - Come on my Selector

Ga! I forgot to add that to zee list. Oh, the video is so great for this track.

sp2 · « **Reply #42 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 10:41 »

Quote from: kidd o

dance music is a pretty subjective classification... I've had 200 people dancing at a party to the faint...

does it sound like sasha? no, but that dosen't mean it's not dance...

I've had 50 to 100 people dancing to At the Drive In. Does that mean it IS dance music?

No. Same with the Faint. Same with Radiohead.

kidd o · « **Reply #43 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 10:58 »

So you have to put dance music through a battery of tests in order to prove its purity??

That seems a little ridiculous don't you think? I mean... if its music.... and people dance to it... why try to complicate it with labels and classification?

My sub argument is for other types of music.

Should there have to be a textbook definition for what Jazz is for instance? If there were a group playing music and they claimed to be jazz would you feel the need to approach them and say:

I'm sorry but due to sub clause C of the Jazz litany you all are technically Blues. Please cease and desist the use of the term Jazz.

Last but not least if you listen to the music on wet from birth without lyrics where would you put it anyway?

Remember were still evaluating art here… it can’t possibly be wrong for one person to call something dance music and another to call it something else. They are still just evaluations.

How can it be bullshit to state a preference Barry??

KharBevNor · « **Reply #44 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 11:47 »

http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

Ishakur's Guide to Electronic Music.

It's a bit coloured, and of a wider scope than just dance music, but if it's NOT in there there is absolutely no chance of it being dance music in the way this thread is set up to discuss.

Hatebunny · « **Reply #45 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 12:11 »

I classify dance music as anything up to and including breakbeat, eurodance, trance, techno, house, club, etc etc.

I classify the kind of 'industrial dance' stuff you mentioned as EBM.

Now, the difference is, there is 'dance music' and 'music that you dance to.'
I was primarily listing 'dance music' but I through in some 'music that I dance to' because that's what was asked for in the first place.

No fouls anywhere.

sp2 · « **Reply #46 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 13:02 »

RE: Kidd O.

A particular genre title implies a particular general "feel" to music. If I claim my music is "progressive" that doesn't mean it's liberal and forward thinking. I mean, shit, I could argue (and argue convincingly) that punk and industrial are progressive. But the spirit of the title "progressive" is arena rock with complex technical music that is heavily influenced by classical and nonwestern music that often relies on both superior musicianship and esoteric chord progressions, time signatures, synchopation, etc. Thus, while Bad Religion may be politically progressive, King Crimson, which pretty much stays out of politics, is progressive rock.

If I say "music to dance to" that could mean ANY music. People used to dance to classical music. And jazz. And tribal music. And hell, you can even dance to punk. But the term "dance music" implies a particular spirit, and that spirit is not embodied by indie rock, prog rock, punk, post-hardcore, black metal, or any of a thousand other genres. It is embodied by electronica, and even then, only some electronica (and industrial) can really fit this bill. Thus, I could dance my ass off to Arcade Fire, but they are not dance music, and most people wouldn't dance to Frontline Assembly (I don't really know why, though) and that IS dance music.

Genres have a million different purposes and I'm not going to get into them all right now. While subgenres and smaller partitions (e.g. post-punk vs. post-hardcore) are highly debatable, major genres are pretty solid. Everyone knows what metal, electronica, hip-hop, punk, alt-rock, and so forth mean, even if they don't know the difference between, say, trance and house. Pulling a "who cares about genre names?" whine just because you don't want to admit that you were wrong is just lame. And overkill.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #47 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 13:05 »

Quote from: sp2

Everyone knows what metal....punk...alt-rock, and so forth mean.

Oh fuck, if only.

kidd o · « **Reply #48 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 13:09 »

then how do you explain that two different record stores can have the same record in different categories?

If there is no concrete way to classify something then again it's silly to act like there is a right or wrong way to do it.

you're still clinging to the idea that because everyone uses these genres, that gives them some kind of validity. In logic that is a fallacy.

you haven't given sufficient cause that a subjective categorization of art can be right or wrong. So lets focus on that if we're to have a discussion about something instead of calling each other names shall we?

sp2 · « **Reply #49 on:** 22 Jul 2005, 13:10 »

Well, they should, at least. Although you're right. I heard some shitty band the other day on, I dunno, Fuse I think, that was billing themselves as speed metal or something when they were pretty much just shitty screamcore.

Though it's pretty much a dead giveaway you don't play metal when your entire band looks like the guys from Interpol.

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MilkmanDan

ASturge

Se7en

Praeserpium Machinarum

heretic

heretic

ASturge

sp2

heretic

SpacemanSpiff

TH89

kidd o

Mnementh

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