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onewheelwizzard:
I haven't listened to enough Tool to have a fair opinion of them, but I will say this ...
Their syncing of the "Lateralus" album and "The Nightmare Before Christmas" was fucking SWEET. Anyone who's got "Lateralus" and "The Nightmare Before Christmas" should play them simultaneously (get the music to start as the opening credits do) with the mute on the TV. It is preferable to be in some sort of altered state for this, but not really necessary. A lot of people know about the "Dark SIde of Oz" thing with "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd and The WIzard of Oz, but this is even better.
Outside of seeing that, I'm not really qualified to pass judgement on Tool, so I'm going to refrain from doing so.
sp2:
--- Quote from: Praeserpium Machinarum ---But I can understand how their artiness might piss somebody off, sometimes it's difficult to know if they are sincere or not, most of the time I think they are both.
--- End quote ---
I know why people don't like Mars Volta, but we're talking about Tool here.
No, seriously. Tool are cool and all (I used to be a huge fan in, well, high school), but if you think they're "arty" you're really not right. The Residents are arty. Blonde Redhead are arty. Mars Volta can pass for arty. Devotchka (you've never heard of them, but you should look into them anyways) are arty. Tool, yeah, not arty. The guitar and bass parts, while sometimes technical, are very conventional. The vocals are conventional. The drum beats are certainly interesting and in strange time signatures, but they are for the most part, conventional prog or tribal beats. Art rock implies NONconventional music, and Tool just doesn't do that.
lastclearchance:
Perhaps by "arty" s/he meant "melodramatic." A lot of people like melodrama in their music (I am one, or else I wouldn't love Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness) but the first word that comes to mind is "arty". Art-rock is just another descriptor like emo that gets thrown around.
And I can understand some people liking Tool for its melodrama. They create a type of melodramatic rock that isn't bad and that for many people really speaks to them. (Yeah, I know how cliched that sounds, but I can't find a better way of putting it.)
What I don't understand is the fanatical devotion of Tool's fans. I think that's why it's so divided. People who like Tool are more likely to insist that they're the best band ever, and so people that don't like Tool are more likely to react by actively disliking Tool.
sp2:
I wouldn't really call Tool melodramatic. But whatever. Pretentious, sure. But melodramatic? Not really.
KharBevNor:
using the word 'Melodramatic' instantly brings to my mind Jack Off Jill and Queen Adreena. Both bands I like quite a bit, as it happens, but still.
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