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[TheToon_Ashtoon]

Coldplay's meaningless lyrics.... meh... a lot of their songs I would have to agree, but there are a few that i enjoy.  There was this orchestral version of Clocks that I heard a few times that I really like.  I like the sound of their music, if anything.  I just find it calming.

[silver_whisper]

I love their music. If it was all instrumental, I'd dig it.

[Wulfen]

Its good background music. One non-annoying, continuous song that you dont have to listin very hard to. But if im concentrating on the music its like having your brain raped through your ear with a pot plant. Its amazing what inattention can protect you from...

[Se7en]

coldplay sucked, and still suck. At least the rest of the world didnt have to put up with pub bands playing bad covers of "yellow", which was a goddamn horrible, talentless, whiney, meaningless, and mind numbingly boring song to start with.

[Hatebunny]

without going back and quoting myself:

coldplay KNOWS they suck. They've admitted that they suck in several interviews. We don't need you to tell us something the band has told us.

[KharBevNor]

Well, if they suck, they should stop making albums.

Twunts.

Back on the subject of crap music:

A lot of J-Pop, especially the Eurobeat stuff, is pretty bloody dire. There are actually some very good J-Pop/J-Rock bands, but some is the musical equivalent of snorting 4 kilos of candyfloss from a sumo-wrestlers navel.

[sp2]

Well, if they suck, they should stop making albums.

Bingo.

[TheToon_Ashtoon]

I don't see how anyone can label any type of music bad.  Damn, people.  Have some respect for different taste.  So what if I hate pop or R&B or country or emo or whatever, I would never label a band bad.  Music is music, which i have a lot of respect for.  Just because you do not like a particular band doesn't mean they suck, they just appeal to different tastes.  If someone is making music, then good for them.  If one person likes the band, then it isn't a lost cause.  

So meh!

[KharBevNor]

Have some respect for different taste.

But then I wouldn't get to insult people.

I mean, seriously, I'm on this other forum right now, ripping serious piss out of some dude who thinks the best 'hardcore-punk' bands ever are Bad Religion and Fugazi.

It's rocking fun.

[sp2]

The "never label a band bad" sentiment is, well, WRONG.

Never label a genre as bad.  But bands?  Oh fuck yes.

End of story.

[TheToon_Ashtoon]

Myeh, I have my own opinion.  There are most definately bad bands, but ones that show talent, in my opinion, should never be labeled that.  Even if some people don't like their sound.

[Merkava]

Have some respect for different taste.

But then I wouldn't get to insult people.

I mean, seriously, I'm on this other forum right now, ripping serious piss out of some dude who thinks the best 'hardcore-punk' bands ever are Bad Religion and Fugazi.

It's rocking fun.

Ew. Bad Religion? Fugazi, I can understand, when keeping their early career in mind, but BR? BEST? Nope.

And I totally agree with your feelings on J-Pop. I know too many people who love that shit to death.

[KharBevNor]

I mean, keep in mind he used the phrase 'hardcore-punk' here, which is pretty redundant. He might have been differentiating from hardcore dance...but I doubt it. and Fugazi are post-hardcore anyway.

[sp2]

Myeh, I have my own opinion.  There are most definately bad bands, but ones that show talent, in my opinion, should never be labeled that.  Even if some people don't like their sound.

Coldplay doesn't show talent.

[TheToon_Ashtoon]

Maybe not everyone sees it that way.

[heretic]

...I would never label a band bad.  Music is music, which i have a lot of respect for.

There are most definately bad bands, but ones that show talent, in my opinion, should never be labeled that.

but wait, i thought you would never label a band 'bad.' but there are definately bad bands? what do you call them? less-pleasing to the ear than most? are we PCing music critique now? gimme a break

[Maui]

Seriously, this is why the music forum is so stupid. Look at the effing thread title people. How the hell did we get from Nickelback being the 2nd worst band in the world to Coldplay sucking. Gah, im not a mod, but why do all these threads end up being about a completely different band and why one person is right and everyone else is wrong??? GAH.

That is all.
[/rant]

[Luke]

Comments:

 - Kudos to est for being the first person in this thread to actually be un-ignorant enough to spell Nickelback correctly.

 - I liked Nickelback's album "Silver Side Up," and still listen to it often. I haven't much cared for what they've come out with since then; it seems that once they realized they were popular, they went downhill in my tastes.

IF YOU DISAGREE [WITH ME] YOU ARE WRONG

 - That doesn't make you sound good. At all.

 - Coldplay is my #1 favorite group.

 - I don't listen to it much anymore, but when I put in Creed, I like what I hear. I haven't bothered with anything new since "Weathered" was released.

 - Coldplay's lyrics aren't meaningless. Just because you don't understand the lyrics in "Clocks" or "Speed of Sound" (I'll admit I'm in the dark about those 2), which are their higher-up singles, it doesn't mean that all of their songs are metaphorical gibberish. Listen to any of their albums and you'll see what I mean.

Coldplay doesn't show talent.

 - Chris Martin has a huge range, and hits every note with perfection. Coldplay's music has a specific style that people associate with Coldplay; this is proven in my own experience, when I wrote a song and people thought that I had taken it from Coldplay. You don't like Coldplay, and this is fine. But saying that they have no talent is like saying that dogs are disgusting, mutant freaks of nature because you don't like them.

 - Maui: not being a mod doesn't stop some people from acting like them.

Okay, I'm done.

[Merkava]

I mean, keep in mind he used the phrase 'hardcore-punk' here, which is pretty redundant. He might have been differentiating from hardcore dance...but I doubt it. and Fugazi are post-hardcore anyway.

That's true. I have trouble with Fugazi being during hardcore or after it sometimes.

[Kid Modernist]

Fugazi are post-hardcore anyway.

Jebus, dude. Why don't you just get it over with and call them the Fugazi genre? Anymore genre-narrowing and that's what we'll be at, I think.

[TheToon_Ashtoon]

Luke, I like you.
Also, I didn't mean to contradict myself.  That sounds extremely juvenile of me, and I feel pretty stupid.  What I beleive I mean is that perhaps there is an amazing singer, but you just don't like the sound of their voice, that doesn't make the singer bad.  And yeah, you are right, there are some bands that are truly honest-to-god awful. Some that really can't even make their music sound good together, whether it is lack of talent or just lacking the ability to be syncronized with each other.  Or some singers are just painfully awful.  I dunno, forget what I said before, I was being dumb because a band I really liked was being bashed.  Blahblahblah.

I'm really no good at arguing.

[heretic]

's ok, it was either luke or jhocking what called me on something very close to the same thing when i was pretty new. i didn't handle it as well as you have here though. good for you.
so it's been agreed that there are objectively bad bands, but a lot of what we feel is bad is just a matter of taste?
this makes sense to me, but i don't think this should stop us from calling those bands that don't fit our taste "bad." i think a lot of bands suck shit, but other people like them. to me they are bad, i'm not going to PC my speech and say that i just don't prefer them when i think they suck big floppy donkey dick. everyone needs to take that little bit of thought and realize that we can only speak for ourselves, and everyone else can only speak for themselves. we know this, so assume this.
i could swear i've said this many times before

[TheToon_Ashtoon]

I completely agree with you, and I understand people's hatred for certain bands completely.  Like I said, I was being a bit stupid when writing those posts, and I don't really think all that.  I guess I have a different approach about bands I dislike, I'm just non-confrontational.  it seems silly to me, all the hatin' over something that seems so trivial as taste in music.  I let things effect me a bit too much I s'pose, "Love and PEACE!!!"  Haha, I'm a twit at times.

[Sythe]

Pfft, peace n' love all the way. Avoidance, and whatnot.

Saturation bombing is a good tactic for sucky bands.

[KharBevNor]

Saturation bombing is a good tactic for sucky bands.

Correct'd

[Sythe]

Yeah, I guess so, but I try to be a nice guy and save all my schemes for when I am dictator. For one, I will wait till sucky bands have a good following, and then inject one fan at a huge concert with that virus from 28 Days Later.

[sp2]

- Chris Martin has a huge range, and hits every note with perfection. Coldplay's music has a specific style that people associate with Coldplay; this is proven in my own experience, when I wrote a song and people thought that I had taken it from Coldplay. You don't like Coldplay, and this is fine. But saying that they have no talent is like saying that dogs are disgusting, mutant freaks of nature because you don't like them.

Vocal talent is not equivalent to musical talent.

Christina Aguilera has vocal talent.  I wouldn't call her music "talented."  I'd call it bastardized coommercialized livestock droppings.  Same thing with Coldplay.  Coldplay has a style that was previously associated with Radiohead and is, to a lesser extent, associated with Muse.  Piano rock with tremolo vocals.

Their music  is uninspired.  It is an attempt to capitalize off the musical zeitgeist following Radiohead's first 3 albums.  The lyrics are shitty high school love poetry.  The musical parts are very simplistic.  The vocals are a little complex, but there are much better vocalists out there.  If I wanted to listen to choir boys, I'd become a priest....at least I'd get blowjobs as part of the bargain.

Claiming Coldplay sucks is not like claiming dogs are mutannt freaks.  It is like claiming chihuahuas are mutannt disgusting freaks.  Which they are.  The only things more inbred than a chihuahua are Hapsburgs and West Virginians.

[Not An Addict]

If I wanted to listen to choir boys, I'd become a priest....at least I'd get blowjobs as part of the bargain.

This is one of those sentences that sound totally hysterical when you post them on the Internet, but when you walk away from the computer you realize it's really stupid.

As far as Coldplay goes...whatever. They're so utterly bland that I simply cannot work up any strong feelings for them, positive or negative. The best thing I can say about them is that they fade into the background really nicely.

[Maui]

THIS IS WHY I HATE THE MUSIC FORUM. Ughhhhh. Seriously sp2, how many times do you have to say the same damn thing about Coldplay? We realize you dont like mainstream music AT ALL and therefore are cooler than all of us. Really, WE GET IT.
And some of your statements are really ignorant, i mean, they might sound funny in person, but this is the internet, and everyone thinks you're an ass then. You should really review the rules for this forum, cause you've broken every single one of them on several occasions.

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/viewtopic.php?t=5617">Merry Christmas

Also, sorry if i sound like a mod, i get pissed when people try to do that, but im just aggravated is all.

[Luke]

[Coldplay's] music  is uninspired.

Yeah, because we all know that songs about love, friends, and life struggles are completely uninspired. Good one. Once again, you're striking suspicions in me that you have never bothered actually checking out the media that you are labeling as "shit."

[Coldplay's] musical parts are very simplistic.

The fact that you'll find a 3-3-2 rhythm in several of their songs isn't simplism - it's the definition of their style.

The[ir] lyrics are shiity high school love poetry.

Shitty high school love poetry, in my opinion, is the kind of poetry that either rhymes words for the sake of rhyme, or doesn't rhyme words at all. Poetry of this category can also include the sing-song kind of poetry that has matching numbers of syllables, but doesn't line of syllables correctly.

What if there was no light
Nothing wrong, nothing right
What if there was no time
And no reason or rhyme
What if you should decide
That you don't want me there by your side
That you don't want me there in your life

What if I got it wrong
And no poem or song
Could put right what I got wrong
Or make you feel I belong
What if you should decide
That you don't want me there by your side
That you don't want me there in your life

Every step that you take
Could be your biggest mistake
It could bend or it could break
That's the risk that you take
What if you should decide
That you don't want me there in your life
That you don't want me there by your side

This definitely does not fit the aforementioned category.

Christina Aguilera has vocal talent.  I wouldn't call her music "talented."  I'd call it bastardized coommercialized livestock droppings.

Oh, we all know. You'd probably label anything that you dislike as such, too. Because, you know, any music that actually becomes popular is automatically bad. </sarcasm> (Disclaimer to the rest of you out there: I don't actually listen to Christina Aguilera; I'm just making a point)

Claiming Coldplay sucks is not like claiming dogs are mutannt freaks.

Of course, but that's not what I said.

...saying that [Coldplay has] no talent is like saying that dogs are disgusting, mutant freaks of nature because you don't like them.

Finally, to finish off this responsive rant, I'll quote what seems to be the most important point in Dan's post that Maui so graciously linked for you.

Don't be a dick.

[happybirthdaygelatin]

A lot of J-Pop, especially the Eurobeat stuff, is pretty bloody dire. There are actually some very good J-Pop/J-Rock bands, but some is the musical equivalent of snorting 4 kilos of candyfloss from a sumo-wrestlers navel.

Oh man, I read this right when I had to answer the work phone.  DIFFICULT.

But jesus christ, the things that we're doing to this poor horse's corpse make beating it seem pleasent.

[Not An Addict]

What if there was no light
Nothing wrong, nothing right
What if there was no time
And no reason or rhyme
What if you should decide
That you don't want me there by your side

See, I think this is where sp2 gets the high school poetry thing from. Martin is using well-oiled rhyming couplets in place of something insightful or unique. We can all rhyme "light" and "right", but what do these lyrics actually mean? And how do they tie in with the emotion behind the song? Judging from the lyrics, this song is apparently about how even the smallest words and actions are extremely powerful, sometimes devastating, but he's using the most bland language to convey this idea. It rolls right off the tongue, in one ear and out the other. If Martin actually wanted to make some kind of impact with his songs, he'd use more forceful, or at least more thoughtful, language.

Also, don't bother defending your band by posting lyrics you like. The opposing side would find something to nitpick in a Shakespeare sonnet.

[heretic]

i'm sorry but those lyrics suck. they suck they suck they suck. they don't convey anything. just the same sappy contemplative morose bull. there are no details, no emotions, just questions. don't gimmie some pseudo intellectual bull about that being the point either. if that were the point the questions would lead the listener to a defined end. these are just word that act as something for his moans to pronounce, they have no merit of themselves. it could bend or it could break? bad lyric. it is never defined. maybe you think it just means life? still a dumb lyric, just put in cause it rhymes. overall shallow and boring.
of course, as we all know, this is just my opinion.

[sp2]

[Coldplay's] music  is uninspired.

Yeah, because we all know that songs about love, friends, and life struggles are completely uninspired. Good one. Once again, you're striking suspicions in me that you have never bothered actually checking out the media that you are labeling as "shit."

The music is uninspired.  Not the lyrics.  The lyrics are just shitty.  The music is uninspired, as it is formulaic and lacks any sort of punch.  There are plenty of solf piano-ey songs out there that can still kick you in the ass.  Coldplay doesn't do that.  Coldplay opts for formulaic and inoffensive.  This is not writing music because it's inside you and you need to get it out.  This is writing music because there's still space in your pockets for a few more million and you wouldn't mind filling it.

And yes, I've listened to every Coldplay album ad nauseum (emphasis on nausea).  My ex-roommate loved the shit out of them, so I'd have to listen to them half the time I spent in my apartment.

Joke's on him.  I forced so much Skinny Puppy on his God-loving ass.

The fact that you'll find a 3-3-2 rhythm in several of their songs isn't simplism - it's the definition of their style.

And Nirvana's overuse of powerchords and elementary beats isn't simplistic, it's their style.

Yeah.  I call bullshit.

Shitty high school love poetry, in my opinion, is the kind of poetry that either rhymes words for the sake of rhyme or doesn't rhyme words at all. Poetry of this category can also include the sing-song kind of poetry that has matching numbers of syllables, but doesn't line of syllables correctly.

No.  High school poetry tends to focus on rhyming couplets with a traditional "A-B-A-B" or "A-A-B-B" or "A-A-B-A" type of structure.  It uses limited vocabulary and obvious simile/metaphor.  This certainly applies to Coldplay.  

Oh, we all know. You'd probably label anything that you dislike as such, too. Because, you know, any music that actually becomes popular is automatically bad. </sarcasm> (Disclaimer to the rest of you out there: I don't actually listen to Christina Aguilera; I'm just making a point)

Ah, the refuge of the thoroughly beaten.  I like plenty of popular bands, at least, bands that have been popular in the past.  Popularity does not make music bad.  Writing music thinking of your bank account and not the music itself DOES make music bad.  And that is exactly what Coldplay does.  Their music is uninspired and unimaginative, they know this, and they keep on writing more unimaginative and uninspired music because it keeps them in that #1 spot on the bestselling music roster.

[heretic]

ZING!

[Maui]

Seriously sp2, i dont care if you dont like Coldplay. I think its become pretty damn clear. All i called you out on was being an ass on these forums.

Also, when did this thread become "Coldplay is the second worst band in the world" ? I think we've beaten this topic to death and then some.

[sp2]

This is a thread about BAD BANDS holyshitomg.  You think people aren't going to be bashing shitty bands in here?  Well, you've got another think coming to you.

If you don't want to hear bands you don't like being bashed, don't read threads about shitty bands.  Or maybe instead you're a masochist who LIKES her favorite bands being insulted.  I don't really know, but it doesn't matter.  This is a thread about shitty music, thus, bashing shitty music is perfectly fair game, and not an asshole move.  Calling me an asshole doesn't change the fact that everything I've said here has been pretty much fair game for this thread.

An asshole move would be calling you a prudish bitch, but I would never lower myself to the level of calling a spade a spade.

[heretic]

watch it sp2, don't be a dick. Maui's my friend, and even though she has shit taste in music you don't get to insult her.

also, maui, as long as people keep defending Coldplay i think we have the right to a response.

anyhow, this line of conversation can only lead to a lock so why don't we drop the coldplay debate when noone really is getting the last word?

[Maui]

Yea, i pretty much give up on the defending thing.

Or maybe instead you're a masochist who LIKES her favorite bands being insulted.

Yes, OBVIOUSLY.

Maui's my friend, and even though she has shit taste in music

Woohoo! People on the internet like me! Hey...wait........i dont have bad taste in music..........i just lack a lot of indie cred heh. I live in the middle of nowhere, we dont get to hear/buy a lot of different types of music, so oh well.

[sp2]

That was more a response to her constantly calling me an asshole or a dick.  I don't care if she thinks my comments about Coldplay's lack of merit are mean.  She ups the ante by calling me an asshole for it.  Either we limit the discussion to the merits or demerits of music, or we extend it to personal insults.  Calling me an asshole is a personal insult.  Personal insults don't really bother me, but if we're going to play that game, well, a lot worse will come out than "prudish bitch."

Personally,  I'd prefer to keep the discussion to the merits or demerits of music.  Personal insults belong on IRC.

[Maui]

Not just your comments about Coldplay. Your comments EVERYWHERE on this forum. Im done arguing about this now though.

[heretic]

everyone take a deep breath and shut the fuck up  better? great!
ok, so how about we talk about how much we hate lindsay lohan? hilary duff? ashley simpson? the triumvirate of STDs and horrible music

[Maui]

Hilary Duff............my ears bleed........ahhh. My friends understand my pure hatred for her since they hear about it all the time, heh. It makes me sad that people like her can get record deals and make millions of dollars for singing off key songs, yet talented people cant.

[Luke]

*cough*britneyspears*cough*

[Johnny C]

I prefer not to acknowledge that Lohan, Duff, and either Simpson exist.

[Merkava]

Ok guys, this argument is too cliche. I'm about ready to unload an unpopular opinion.

Oh what the heck.

I think Yo La Tengo is a shitty band. The boring, muddy distortion and lack of power in the vocals makes me want to commit suicide. Seriously. I go out of it feeling so shitty I could crawl up in a hole and die...and not in a good way.

WHY MUST YOU WHISPER ALL OF YOUR VOCALS YOU LOSER OVERRATED PANSIES.

[Kid Modernist]

The Mars Volta sucks. It sucks bad.

[ASturge]

Maybe not everyone sees it that way.

Here's one person who does.

Aught to do a poll....

[trolley]

The Mars Volta sucks. It sucks bad.

Hell yeah. That stuff is terrible.

[Merkava]

I wish Mars Volta would focus on making SONGS for once. I want At the Drive-In to get back together. T_T