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« on: 30 Aug 2005, 19:29 »

Anybody here like electronic music?
if so, list your favorite groups/artists

mine are:
The Chemical Brothers
The Crystal Method
Underworld
The Prodigy
DJkFX
The orb
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« Reply #1 on: 31 Aug 2005, 02:42 »

but in a rather different direction (calmer stuff)

as there would be:
- dzihan & kamien (though even finer in the 'instrumental version' as dzihan & kamien orchestra)
- kruder & dorfmeister
- waldeck
- aromabar
- tosca
- sofa surfers
(and a t.b.c. list of other vienna school artists)

if you like the notwist, you might be interested in console (that's the guy - Martin Gretschmann - that does the electronica for notwist; very good indeed, especially live)

else i'd go for 4 heros, the ubiquitous røyksopp, zero 7, Ladytron, and some good ol' trip-hop...
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« Reply #2 on: 31 Aug 2005, 03:02 »

The Chemical Brother, The Crystal Method, Underworld and the Prodigy are pretty much the only sort of electronic music I cannot stand. That and all that trance/house/dance crap. I'm more into Four Tet, SAW mode Aphex Twin and other dudes whos names I can't think of at the moment.
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« Reply #3 on: 31 Aug 2005, 06:26 »

I was raised listneing to the Prodigy and the Chemical Brothers =D
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« Reply #4 on: 31 Aug 2005, 08:36 »

HEY GUYS ANYONE INTO MUSIC WITH GUITARS?

COS I DIG IT




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« Reply #5 on: 31 Aug 2005, 12:15 »

The Dust Brothers (aka The Chemical Brothers), Underworld, Lemon Jelly  (c'mon you know it;s just softcore electronica), and DJ Shadow.
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« Reply #6 on: 31 Aug 2005, 13:40 »

Aphex Twin are good.. love Vol II of their Ambient stuff, Collide,
13mg, (Bon-Dage!)
Covenant,
God Module,
Panic DHH (Electronica with Guitars! how about that Salada?) Clock DVA.. thats about all i can remember off the top of my head...
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« Reply #7 on: 31 Aug 2005, 14:08 »

Heh, I feel like I'm being outed.  Here are my fave electronica artists by genre:

Turntablism
DJ Shadow, Cut Chemist, Invisbl Skratch Piklz

Instrumental Hip Hop
DJ Shadow, DJ Krush, DJ Spooky, DJ Food, RJD2

Lounge/Fusion/Trip Hop
Thievery Corporation, Supreme Beings of Leisure (only their first album), Massive Attack, Jazzanova, Kruder & Dorfmeister, Cinematic Orchestra, Smith & Mighty

Techno/Speed Techno
Underworld, Prodigy

IDM
Aphex Twin

House/Big Beat/Jungle
Daft Punk, Chemical Brothers, Basement Jaxx, Fatboy Slim

Ambient
Haujobb

Notice that there is an egregious amount of bleed-through between genres.
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« Reply #8 on: 31 Aug 2005, 15:01 »

Basement Jaxx and Fatboy Slim are KILLER.

Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin, Manitoba/Caribou - all awesome.
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« Reply #9 on: 31 Aug 2005, 17:27 »

All mentioned so far, plus Boom Bip, Styrofoam, Khonnor, Battles (kind of electronic), and Julian Fane. As well as the obvious Album Leaf.

I too lean towards to calmer side of things, but I do have a fairly large collection of IDM and more experimental/hardcore stuff. It helps to live with someone who works for Boomkat Records; my house is literally stuffed full of vinyl featuring all kinds of electronica.

There's an amazing track called 'Hater'. Thats all thats written on the label, but I think its pretty recent. If I get a chance I'll ask him who it is.
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« Reply #10 on: 31 Aug 2005, 20:58 »

BRING ON THE LIST

The Dust Brothers
Evil Nine
Neophyte
Boards Of Canada
Lemon Jelly
Prodigy
Diplo
Kid606
Bogdan Raczinski
Aphex Twin
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« Reply #11 on: 31 Aug 2005, 21:19 »

I'm getting into this guy:

http://www.myspace.com/rogerodonnell
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« Reply #12 on: 31 Aug 2005, 22:43 »

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yeh, it's just that whenever this thread comes up (it seems to be second only in recurringness to the hip-hop thread), everyone seems to list this weird mix of bigbeat superstar commercial stuff (chemical brothers, fatboy slim, underworld, etc) and whatever pitchfork thinks is cool this month (boards of canada and a bit of aphex twin)*.

it seems to be the indie rock equivalent of mentioning clap your hands say yeah and coldplay in the same breath. that's kind of a shonky metaphor, but you get the idea.

and then there's my issue with the "electronica" genre -- it's such a laughably broad tag. i mean depending on your standards, you can put lemonjelly and kruder+dorfmeister in the same boat as guys like phthalocyanine and kid606 -- they're both broadly "electronica". i suppose people are doing the subgenre thing though, which kinda helps.

(and the way music's going these days, it'd be pretty uncommon for there NOT to be some sort of electronic somethingorother somewhere in the recording/production of it.)

all that said, though, some favourites:

silly glitchy stuff, IDM maybe, bordering on noise at times: venetian snares, kid 606, cex, shitmat, hrvåtski, guilty connector, epsilon, squarepusher, atari teenage riot, autechre

drum and basssss: evol intent, the enemy, paul blackout, spor, pish posh, dom+roland, bad company, pendulum, phobia, concord dawn.

downbeat, sort of hip-hop-ish stuff: prefuse 73, krush, blockhead, hermitude, dj cam, vadim, herbaliser, peace orchestra, kruder+dorfmeister, tosca, and, er, can't remember.

and, er, other people: amon tobin, aphex twin, BoC, chaos AD, and that's all i can think of and i want lunch.



*don't get me wrong, i like all of these people (with the possible exception of fatboy slim)
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« Reply #13 on: 01 Sep 2005, 01:00 »

see, the reason you'll see me fit so many weird ones together is I'm a Raver from way back who grew into more mature electronic music, but at the same time, kept a bit of my roots, like Dust Brothers, Neophyte, Ect.


not everyones jumping on the electronic bandwagon, some of us have been riding it for a while
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« Reply #14 on: 01 Sep 2005, 14:00 »

Why has nobody mentioned Juno Reactor yet?
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« Reply #15 on: 01 Sep 2005, 17:56 »

Just off the top of my head:

Drum & Bass - Photek, Seba, Blame, ASC, Cable, Future Engineers, Blu Mar Ten

Downtempo - Jazzanova, Koop, Rae & Christian, Zero 7, The Funky Lowlives, Truby Trio, Vikter Duplaix, Moodorama, Tosca, The Dining Rooms, King Tubby, Thievery Corporation's first two albums, Eivind Aarset, Bugge Wesseltoft

House - Yukihiro Fukutomi, Ben Watt, Chris Duckenfield, Fred Everything, Alexi Delano (ADNY), Jori Hulkonnen, Jesper Dahlback (The Persuader), anything off of Svek records, Blue Six, Miguel Migs, Lisa Shaw, Herbert, Isolee

Techno - Aril Brikha, Theorem, Fluxion, Claudia Bonrelli, Mokira (Andreas Tilliander), Vladislav Delay, Richard Chartier, Lusine, Laurent Garnier, Mike Parker, Triola

"Indie" electronic - Lali Puna, The One A.M. Radio, Populous, Ladytron, Marc Hellner, The Album Leaf
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« Reply #16 on: 01 Sep 2005, 19:26 »

wow, i didnt know so many people here liked electronic music
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« Reply #17 on: 01 Sep 2005, 19:33 »

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Why has nobody mentioned Juno Reactor yet?


Because the best thing they ever produced was the Mortal Kombat Theme Song?

Lots of new names in the above mentions (yay!)  

I'd add Mr. Scruff & The Magnetic Fields to the indie/electronica list, because they are both six shades of awesome.
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« Reply #18 on: 01 Sep 2005, 21:05 »

I enjoy lots of electronic artists:

Eluvium
Xiu Xiu
Aarktica
Fennesz
The Album Leaf
Hood
Keith Fullerton Whitman
Landing
Yellow6
Rothko
Four Tet
Aphex Twin
Stars of the Lid
The Dead Texan
Windy and Carl
M83
Dntel
Postal Service
Boards of Canada
+/-
Matmos
Alias & Ehren
65 Days of Static
Air
Aidan Baker
Jane
Bibio
Boy in Static
Manitoba/Caribou
Climax Golden Twins
Cyann & Ben
Hrvatski
Remote Viewer
Royksopp
Squarepusher
Tim Hecker
Vitalic
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« Reply #19 on: 02 Sep 2005, 06:27 »

The only type I can stand is Fatboy Slim. Y'know, because they're awesome.
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« Reply #20 on: 02 Sep 2005, 07:18 »

I love having lists totally different to everyone elses. I'll list purely/mainly electronic stuff, rather than fusion. My genres may well be of, especially if you are any sort of rivethead.

Darkwave/Ambient/Dungeon:
(late) Burzum
Dreams of Dying Stars
Lacrimosa
Miners of Moria
Mortiis
Starchamber

EBM:
E Nomine
Front 242
Gothminister
Neuroticfish
VNV Nation
Wolfsheim
:wumpscut:

Folktronica:
Patrick Wolf

Goa/Acid/Whatever:
Crystalline Effect
Infected Mushroom
Lords of Acid

Industrial:
Angelspit
Deathstars
Dread Conveyor
Foetus
G/Z/R
Hanzel und Gretyl
(old) Killing Miranda
(old) KMFDM
Kompressor
Ministry
OhGr
Throbbing Gristle

Noise:
Cement Voltage!
Merzbow
Navicon Torture Technologies
Whitehouse

Synths/Musique Concrete:
Cornelius Cardew
Delia Darbyshire

(And a load of eighties synthpop with unfortunate outfits)
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« Reply #21 on: 02 Sep 2005, 07:49 »

Wow, that's a lot of industrial.  I remember being into :wumpscut: for a little while.  Which leads me to ask who would win in a fight:

Rudy Ratzinger



or that other Ratzinger fellow.

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« Reply #22 on: 02 Sep 2005, 09:27 »

Cosmic Gate
DJ Teisto
Chemical Brothers
Infected Mushroom
Basement Jaxx

And some others I can't remember because I'm blinded with fury because of the stupid air horn that one of my neighbours has.
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« Reply #23 on: 07 Sep 2005, 18:49 »

Well that's all very well, but clearly not enough people are listening to Fennesz, Lusine or Q-Burns Abstract Message. I suggest you rectify this problem as soon as possible. Sub-genre wise they're kinda ambient-noise / IDM and just IDM respectively.

Also, there's a ton of amazing electronica and noise from before laptops were invented. Because, you know, Electronic doesn't mean computers. The 1950's and 60's had some fucking insane stuff made with tape loops and broken pianos being hit with hammers and shit. Some of it's musique concrete, and some of it's just crazy. Get some Karlheinz Stockhausen in your life. You know it makes sense.

Also, now I think about it, I don't recall anyone putting 000, Apparat, Arovane or Acid Techno. That last one is a genre by the way. Mmm, Dave the Drummer and Umek.

Finally, WHAT THE SHITTING MOTHERFUCK? ONLY ONE PERSON PUT AUTECHRE!
Jesus Christ people, how are you not listening to Autechre at every single oportunity? Fuck Aphex Twin, Autechre are the kings of IDM.
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« Reply #24 on: 08 Sep 2005, 00:30 »

Autechre are pretty awesome.  But that's nothing compared to not one person so far listing . . .

KRAFTWERK!

WTF?!  Minimum-Maximum is fucking insane.  Like, religion insane.  When the robots have taken over, they will listen to Kraftwerk.  Because robots are awesome .
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« Reply #25 on: 08 Sep 2005, 01:05 »

Autechre is quite amazing.  Probably my favorite "pure" IDM act (whatever that means).

Gotta love Squarepusher for insane drill'n'bass.

Lately I'm in love with abstract hip-hop (aka anything on Ninja Tune).

Um...other than that I think pretty much everything I like has been mentioned.  I'll chime in if I think of anything else.
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« Reply #26 on: 08 Sep 2005, 01:08 »

<3 Squarepusher & Ninja Tune.  Somewhere a man is sending me a package right now.  In the package is One Night in Bangkok.  What a nice man!
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« Reply #27 on: 08 Sep 2005, 02:58 »

Goldfrapp is the closest i get to electronic music, and most people would call that synth pop i guess.

LCD soundsystem is great, because its funny. Musically, its the worst thing ever though.
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« Reply #28 on: 08 Sep 2005, 14:57 »

Boards of Canada - Awesome

I brought A Beautiful Day ... on a whim and it was just the most expressive piece of electronic music I've ever heard. They transcend genres and should be listened to by everyone.
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« Reply #29 on: 08 Sep 2005, 16:20 »

I always found Boards of Canada kind of at an annoying mid-point. Not really proper ambient music, so you can't play it in the background, and not really that much fun to concentrate listening to.

As far as things that aren't really electronic goes, I'm in love with the side of post-metal that incorporates electronic elements, as well as industrial metal. By which I mean, for example, ...And Oceans, Aborym, Ewigkeit, Contrastic, The Berzerker, old Fear Factory, Count Nosferatu Kommando, Red Harvest, Cynic and of course Ulver, who are full on 'proper' electronic music nowadays.

And bloody brilliant too.
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« Reply #30 on: 08 Sep 2005, 17:02 »

Hmmm... I guess I listen to some of the more straightforward stuff like Aphex Twin, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy and some more, but the stuff I actally really enjoy a lot are some more trip-hop-ish things, namely a Danish/British/Japanese band called Blue Foundation. Their style might be described (though it really shouldn't) as Massive Attack-esque trip-hop with a bit more creativity put into the beats and a lot better vocals (both the MC and the female lead).
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« Reply #31 on: 08 Sep 2005, 18:21 »

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Autechre are pretty awesome.  But that's nothing compared to not one person so far listing . . .

KRAFTWERK!


Yeah I don't know why I forgot to mention them.  That show was easily one of the best I've ever been to.  

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Well that's all very well, but clearly not enough people are listening to Fennesz, Lusine or Q-Burns Abstract Message.


I neglected to mention Fennesz, though I did find Venice to be one of the more choice releases of last year. Q-Burns Abstract Message is a much more interesting DJ than he is a producer.  None of his albums have ever really impressed me, though I do remember enjoying his sets at Supersting 2 and the Winter Music Conference a few years ago (the latter performed with Lisa Shaw, which made it that much better).

 I really don't like labelling something "Intelligent Dance Music," as if all other dance music is retarded or something.
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« Reply #32 on: 08 Sep 2005, 19:48 »

I don't really like labeling something "Intelligent Dance Music" as if it were dance music.
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« Reply #33 on: 09 Sep 2005, 00:49 »

it's not really intelligent.
you can't really dance to it (i prefer to spasm).
and it isn't really music (sometimes, and depending on your standards).

but it's still 11 kinds of awesome.



ps. house music is retarded though.
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« Reply #34 on: 12 Sep 2005, 05:07 »

DnB/Jungle:
Aphrodite, Aphex Twin, Photek, Junglefunk

TripHoppish:
massive attack, bjork, Dj Shadow, Portishead, Tricky

trance/etc:
Dj Tïesto, The Crystal Method, Fatboy Slim

Now, Artist i have seen live and were totally blown away:
Junkie XL.  ZOMG
Tiga
Ferry Corsten
Judge Jules

Experimental shit:
Venetian Snares  ZOMG.
Atari teenage riot.  digital hardcore (?)
Bajofondo Tangoclub.  you've probably never heard this.  electronica/tango fusion.
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« Reply #35 on: 12 Sep 2005, 07:12 »

I just picked up the Plump DJs' Eargasm. Check it out if you're into breakbeat. It's good breakbeat, too, not the usual '90s-action-movie-soundtrack stuff like the Crystal Method.

With electronic music (and what a broad category that is, but whatever), I tend to pledge allegiance to individual tracks rather than specific artists. Still, I have a thing for Underworld, the Prodigy, Daft Punk, Bjork, the Sneaker Pimps, Propellerheads, and Chemical Brothers if I'm in the mood.
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« Reply #36 on: 12 Sep 2005, 10:43 »

i know this isnt strictly electronica, but has anyone heard that new album by Alarm Will Sound, the one where they do a 22 peice orchestra acoustic versions of Aphex Twin. i think its pretty damn good, apart from a couple of tracks (meltphace 6 especially), but their version of '4' is brilliant
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« Reply #37 on: 12 Sep 2005, 17:16 »

i've been looking for that for a while. apparently there's a version of omgyjya switch7 on there, and i'd love to hear that.
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« Reply #38 on: 12 Sep 2005, 18:29 »

I don't like naming something "Intelligent Dance Music" because it reeks of pretention.
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« Reply #39 on: 12 Sep 2005, 20:59 »

Not a big fan of IDM or industrial.  Or anything angsty/gothy.

Prodigy were the shit back in the early 90s.  Then again, I liked their latest album as well.  Chemical Brothers...  Seen them six or seven times at this point, they never dissapoint.  Fatboy Slim needs to stop churning out the crap.  Tiesto/Chokenfold/<insert big-name DJ here> can all suck my wang.  They've been recycling the same tired old shit for years now.

Way Out West/Nick Warren/Jody Wisternoff/Hybrid, they are some good stuff.  Shiloh also churn out some nice beats.  Talla 2XLC, The Thrillseekers, Blank and Jones, some random AvB, Westbam, Taucher.  UNKLE.  Timo Maas.  M83.  AMON TOBIN 4 LYFE. Junkie XL. ATB's old stuff. Basement Jaxx. Old Moby.  Old BT. Daft Punk.

That about covers it for now.  :)
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« Reply #40 on: 12 Sep 2005, 21:41 »

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Some electronica I enjoy:
-ditto Autechre, Boards of Canada, Caribou/Manitoba, Fennesz, Khonnor, Hood (really, I don't consider them completely electronic), M83...
-most of what's on morr
-alva noto + ryuichi sakamoto (well, 'insen'... it grew on me in its minimalistic piano / loops)
-berg sans nipple (hard to put down in a genre; it has that film noir / IDM vibe I guess)
-dntel (glitch pop)
-efterklang (glitch pop)
-Everything But The Girl (electropop)
-Fog (turntablism / later, electropop vibe)
-Four Tet (IDM)
-jan jelinek (Lost Recordings I've found I like best... the Jazz loops one was alright for background noise)
manyfingers (IDM)
-The Notwist (electropop/folk)
-Out Hud (dance/funk)
-Ultramarine (folk techno)

I'm sure there's more I'm missing... lots of crossover sorts...
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« Reply #41 on: 13 Sep 2005, 10:02 »

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i've been looking for that for a while. apparently there's a version of omgyjya switch7 on there, and i'd love to hear that.


yea that song is pretty damn good, i havent properly heard the original though, so i dont really have much to compare it to. so i dont know if the original is better
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« Reply #42 on: 13 Sep 2005, 17:27 »

this is a little late Khar, but i think i've got at least one CD by nearly all bands/groups/people you mentioned... (the last 2 threw me)

that kinda freaked me out....

(didn't mean to drag this back up... but thought it was worth it..)
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« Reply #43 on: 14 Sep 2005, 15:10 »

Amon tobin
Autechre
µ-Ziq
Abakus
Biosphere
Boards of canada
Dj krush
Dj shadow (endtroducing is the best album ever)
Earth nation
Electric universe
Etheogenic
Four tet
Future sound of london
Global communication
Hallucinogen
Leftfield
Lemon jelly
Mad professor
Massive attack
Orbital
Quantic
RJD2
Royksopp
Shpongle
Soft cell
The herbaliser
The orb
ToneKroup
Underground resistance
Union Jack
William Orbit
Zero 7
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« Reply #44 on: 14 Sep 2005, 16:51 »

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this is a little late Khar, but i think i've got at least one CD by nearly all bands/groups/people you mentioned... (the last 2 threw me)


I doubt you could have a Dread Conveyor CD, as far as I know Dire's never put together a proper concrete real-world relase. But as for the others: rock.

Delia Darbyshire might be more recognisable to you if you think 'Dr Who Theme'.
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« Reply #45 on: 15 Sep 2005, 20:51 »

Try the Opsound Open Pool.... there's a lot of electronica/ambient music, and it's all freely downloadable under Creative Commons license..

http://www.opsound.org/opsound/pool.html

My favorite there is an ambient version of an Ellington piece, by Binary Beats:

http://www.binarybeats.com/ambient/mp3/1000-caravan.mp3

Also, if you can find it - check out an old Moog synthesizer album, Age of Electronicus by Dick Hyman, a jazz keyboardist. This was done in the late 60s/early 70s. It has Moog covers of some stuff from Beatles, James Brown, and others, along with some originals. Kolumbo is one of the good original tracks.  I bought my LP when it was new of course; I've since digitized it but I don't know where to get a  CD copy of it (If I find it, I'll post it here). I did find a site with a snippet of Kolumbo:

http://www.delicado.org/musicaltaste/sounds/679.mp3

Enjoy
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« Reply #46 on: 16 Sep 2005, 06:49 »

Squarepusher, Aphex Twin, Jaga Jazzist, Autechre, Venetian Snares, Múm and in my opinion one of the greatest electronicaacts ever; Ulver from Norway. A really great band.
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« Reply #47 on: 16 Sep 2005, 08:54 »

The great thing about Ulver is that they achieved such electronic success after creating some of the greatest forest metal of all time. Not to mention that they almost certainly kicked off all post-black metal.
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« Reply #48 on: 16 Sep 2005, 10:39 »

normal electronica, IDM, techno and the like (I suck hard at electronic genres)
Squarepusher, Aphex Twin/Polygon Window, Venetian Snares, Autechre, Jaga Jazzist, Mr Scruff, Four Tet, mu-ziq, Underworld, Robert Miles, the Orb, Orbital, blah blah etc

futurepop/synthpop/ebm/whatever this stuff's called these days + industrial
can't be fucked to make an exhaustive list of every decent artist I have on my computer so the main ones would be:
Angels & Agony, Apopygma, Assemblage 23, Cesium:137, Mind.In.A.Box, Syrian, B!Machine, Wolfsheim, [SITD], Funker Vogt, Neuroticfish, VNV Nation, NamNambulu, Seize, The Azoic, Covenant, Grendel, Ivory Frequency, Icon Of Coil, Combichrist, Iris, Blutengel, Echo Image, Endanger, Absurd Minds, Mesh, Fairlight Children, The Echoing Green, F242, Frontline Assembly, KMFDM, :Wumpscut:, Velvet Acid Christ (far too repetitive and boring most of the time but he's got a few good tunes), Imperative Reaction, Xotox, Config.Sys, Coil, Nitzer Ebb

That's what's on my playlist atm anyway. s'all good

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« Reply #49 on: 16 Sep 2005, 14:58 »

Quote from: Moiche
Autechre are pretty awesome.  But that's nothing compared to not one person so far listing . . .

KRAFTWERK!

WTF?!  Minimum-Maximum is fucking insane.  Like, religion insane.  When the robots have taken over, they will listen to Kraftwerk.  Because robots are awesome .


I didn't mention Kraftwerk? Beat me, for I have failed.
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