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Thrillho:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---Actually, I quite like several songs about killing babies.
My religious beliefs oppose christianity quite strongly, particularly the strands and viewpoints of that song. The line 'It may be the devil, or it may be the lord, but you have to serve someone' encapsulates the entire logic behind close-minded christian persecution of other faiths, and one of the major things wrong with christianity. I serve no-one, neither the devil or the lord.
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I take exception to that. In my experience, it isn't Christianity as a whole, but Christian Fundamentalism and/or Catholicism which leads to persecution, and other denominations and very much of the 'Love thy neighbour' stance.
As as someone who was brought up in the church and would probably be a Christian but for my love of sex, I know my fair share about this subject.
KharBevNor:
I went to a church school. Zing.
Analyse the line I quoted my good sir. Mr. Dylan is pretty much saying if you don't serve his lord like a grovelling wretch, you serve Satan like a grovelling wretch.
Nuh-uh.
sjbrot:
--- Quote from: ephemere ---Agreeing with the viewpoint of the artist and with what the song is about is almost always a factor in liking their music, whether you realise it or not.
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I understand what you are saying, but I still believe that even if you don't come from that viewpoint, there is something that can be taken from music as long as it is well done.
Kid Modernist:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---I went to a church school. Zing.
Analyse the line I quoted my good sir. Mr. Dylan is pretty much saying if you don't serve his lord like a grovelling wretch, you serve Satan like a grovelling wretch.
Nuh-uh.
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He's not saying that, come on.
He's saying that no matter what you do you have to be serving someone. He's not saying anything about YOU ARE EVIL AND GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON"T BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE. Just that in his opinion he thinks you should serve god.
Anti-Christians always put these stigmas of MY WAY OR DIE mindset on ALL christians, which is just bogus. The world is not black and white, and neither is it's people. Even if they disagree with you.
shrimp:
--- Quote from: Kid Modernist ---Anti-Christians always put these stigmas of MY WAY OR DIE mindset on ALL christians, which is just bogus. The world is not black and white, and neither is it's people. Even if they disagree with you.
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Does the christian belief system not say that Thou shalt have no false Gods before me? Which means if you are totally into youre beliefs that all other "Gods" are satans helpers?
I am all for the live and let live approach and know a very large number of Christians who have ABSOLUTELY no problems with my personal belief systems, ethics and moral code, but Christianity as a religion does.
And Khar is right, he didnt offer you a hazy grey area, its either, you are FOR US or AGAINST US, according to Dylan.
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