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Kid Modernist:
Yes, the Bible says that. But people interpret the bible in different ways. My personal reading of that is that by "Gods" he doesn't mean "other Gods" he means that you won't worship anything that is human. You won't put all your though to money, possessions, sex, whatever. I could be wrong, but GASP it means that not all people think the same thing regarding what the Bible means.
Of course he didn't give a grey area, it's what he believes. But he also didn't mention "You're evil if you disagree" anywhere, besides were people insert them themselves.
KharBevNor:
Grief, you didn't get my point.
I don't Serve anything. Especially not the 'devil' or the 'lord'.
I'm a spiritual guy, but "This is the hand that makes, this is the hand that moves".
No time now, gotta get bus. Grarghlzarg.
shrimp:
It depends on your idea of serve.
I serve my gods, I serve them by my relationship with them. I dont follow some text written by people who write the word of their god.
I serve my gods by honouring them and they serve me occasionally by granting a prayer or giving my magic a kick up the bum and making it work faster.
I don't forget my morals and do something I deem wrong because a god asked me to, BUT I can't say I wont. I have given up many things cause my Gods have asked it of me, it has made me a better person, for that I thank them. I mean I give up my full moon nights and sabbat days, I have done 24 hour fasts and mediations and ordeals. These made me more connected to both my Gods and the Earth, as I want to be.
I would like to hear your idea of "serve" Khar.
On Topic- Dylan Blows, his voice is dreadful and makes me want to stick sharp pointy things in my eardrums so I never have to hear it again.
KharBevNor:
I wouldn't call that serving, you see. I call that sort of relationship friendship, myself. A respectful friendship, of course, but a friendship. I suppose there are elements of service involved, but I don't see it as serving, though semantically I suppose you're correct. A lot of christians, I suppose, would say they have a similiar relationship with God/Jesus/the trinity etc. (though they call magick 'prayers', as to admit the existence of a supernatural power available to anyone would de-validate the existence of miracles, anyhoo...) but I can never help myself but see servitude under wrathful old Jahweh as being anything but, well, tyrannical. The god of the bible is a paranoid spiritual construct, an uber-patriarchal totem created by weak men who demands endless praise from his followers during and after life, and hands down edicts restricting pretty much every area of their earthly existence. The reason I don't like a lot of, especially conservative, christians is that they ignore these rules until they get to one they like (like 'no gays').
Clearer? Sorry, I'm allergic to paragraphs.
Thrillho:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---I went to a church school. Zing.
Analyse the line I quoted my good sir. Mr. Dylan is pretty much saying if you don't serve his lord like a grovelling wretch, you serve Satan like a grovelling wretch.
Nuh-uh.
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Yes, that's one Dylan lyric and Dylan's specific views. Most Christians are of a 'live and let live' pespective.
While, yes the Bible states that worshipping other Gods is a sin, everyone on Earth is of equal sin. It's the repentance that counts (unless you take God's deeds and put them in someone else's name, which is the only unforgiveable one I think.)
--- Quote ---The reason I don't like a lot of, especially conservative, christians is that they ignore these rules until they get to one they like (like 'no gays').
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Now this is one thing I agree with. I mean, just as a ridiculously extreme example - there are extremist Christians who will shoot gays, purely because of their sexuality. What the fuck? How about 'thou shalt not murder,' dickheads?
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